SWM & BD, I'm not sure if either of you have read these before, but perhaps reviewing such general background material might make your discussions more fruitful. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consciousness/ http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mind-identity/ This might also help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation JPDeMouy ========================================== Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/