[Wittrs] Re: Stuart Mirsky's Review of McGuinness' Young Ludwig

  • From: brendan downs <downs_brendan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 05:25:45 +1300

Reply to SWM


 Wittgenstein writes in his preface that his Philosophical Investigations 
stands against and with the Tractatus, I would like to emphasize the "WITH" 
part, how much of the Tratatus is in Philosophical Investigations? I don't 
think Wittgenstein was naive enough to think that the actual world consisted 
not of "things" but "facts", but how can we rationalize such a statement or 
truely make sense of it. Wittgenstein is one of the Godfathers of the 
linguistic paradigm created by figures such as Frege, Moore and Russell which 
was a revolt against the Absolute Idealists. Wittgenstein was a Conceptualist 
Idealist exemplified by the statement "The limits of my language are the limits 
of my world" I illerate again, I don't think Wittgenstein believed that the 
only thing that existed was linguistic entities and I qualify this my the use 
of "my world" not "the world". This is Idealist talk as in comparison to say 
ordinary language and idea-ist talk "I have a red idea", this kind of talk is 
meant to resolve contradictions as in a observation report of type "it is a 
round coin but it appears epllitical". So in what sense or lingo is 
Wittgenstein Talking? It is possible to conceive he is not talking of the world 
but the world of linguistic philosophy conceived by him. i.e. he has changed 
hats of ordinary language talk and placed on the cap of a linguistic 
philosopher as in contrast to say of a thereotical physicists i.e the physists 
talks of tables consisting of electrons and not wood or to we have two tables? 
one made of electrons and one made of wood, I think you see my distinction. The 
common mistake for realists is to think that certain types of idealists are 
talking about the real world instead of say a paradigm. In certain light we may 
conceive of Wittgenstein defining a paradigm that the realists don't understand 
an, example of this can be is that we can have a second reading of the 
Tractatus and possibly Philosopical Investigations. I think that the early 
statement about natural scientific statements, not scientific generalizations 
that he may have been eluding to is the problem of negative existentials, in 
that we just pass over talking of them.

 

Brendan
                                          
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