[wisb] Re: Rare Bird Reporting

  • From: "Bettie R. Harriman" <bettie@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcwood729@xxxxxxxxx,<Wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:52:50 -0600

Tom and All,

Please continue to submit the detailed write-ups explaining why you 
know a bird is what you think it is.  Remember "By the Wayside" in 
the Pigeon needs those write-ups.  They are a wonderful teaching tool 
for others if done well (as yours are always done well, Tom).  Yes, 
we can and do run the beautiful photos in the Pigeon and in "By the 
Wayside" - but the words detail what the observer needs to be looking 
for to know they have a specific species.  I new birder would not 
know what the important features are from a beautiful photo only, 
words are still important.

Thanks to all of you for well-written documentations.

Bettie Harriman, Co-Editor
The Passenger Pigeon
Oshkosh

At 09:51 PM 11/6/2011, Tom Wood wrote:
>Steve raises some good points that  I had not thought of. It was always
>stressed to us in the past that everyone who sees a bird should submit a
>report and
>not assume that the other observers would send an acceptable report. Its
>hard to teach an old dog new tricks, but  I see his reasoning about the
>electronoic age. Images such as Dave Freriiks' photos of the Inca Dove and
>Scissor-tailed Flycatcher go way beyond what is required for documentation .
>Since most observers now report electronically one way or another , this
>information is available to almost everyone. I guess my big hangup is that I
>like to write my
>report shortly after the sighting and don't want to go through that process
>if its not going to be looked at. I guess I could just scribble some rough
>notes
>and wait to see if anybody sees the bird after I do before writing the
>report. It appears I have to think this through a bit more. Thanks to Steve
>for his post.
>
>Thomas C Wood,Menomonee Falls, Waukesha County
>
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>From: wisbirdn-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wisbirdn-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>On Behalf Of steven lubahn
>Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:31 PM
>To: Wisconsin Birding Network
>Subject: [wisb] Re: Rare Bird Reporting
>
>This listserve is a good resource for the records committee. If you end up
>being the last person to see the bird then it is likely you will either post
>it to Wisbird or to Ebird. Then your documentation can be used to confirm
>the late date. Going through a dozen reports on the same bird takes time
>away from other reports that require more consideration. It's just a waste
>of valuable time. 50 years ago we didn't have the tools and gadgets we have
>today to disseminate information all over the place. Arrivals and departures
>are better recorded now then ever. You probably know when you are looking at
>a rare bird if your documentation is going to really make a difference
>especially these days when images are posted almost instantly. It's more
>important to put the effort in when it counts. Attached is a link that is a
>helpful outline to follow on submitting a report.
>
>http://www.birdfellow.com/journal/2011/01/23/a_lost_art_writing_descriptions
>_of_rare_birds
>
>Steven Lubahn
>Cudahy
>
>
>On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Jesse Ellis wrote:
>
> > They could work backward from the latest/last report. Once they find
> > an acceptable latest report from which to set a "last seen" date, they
> > could ignore the earlier reports if initial reports were credible.
> > Might save the committee some time.
> > Jesse Ellis,
> > Madison
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Jym Mooney & Carol Lee Hopkins <
> > hopmoon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> There is also the question of seasonal reports.  The seasonal WSO
> >> editors have made it clear that they expect documentation for all
> >> rare birds reported to eBird.
> >>
> >> Somewhere there has got to be a happy medium that accommodates the
> >> scientific collection of data and avoids overwhelming the Records
> >> Committee.
> >>
> >> Jym Mooney, Milwaukee
> >>
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