I have two boys who were ten years apart. I took both of them with me when I'd go birding. Jerry's response to this was perfect. There are sacrifices to be made. But sharing the wonders that your little ones experience is like discovering the world all over again. My oldest, Kevin, became a physicist while continuing to be an avid birder. The summer before last, he took me with him to a conference in Brazil so that we could bird the Atlantic Rain Forest for 10 days together. The ultimate rewards are great! My youngest, Joshua, preferred fish and fishing, so I went fishing, with some birding on the side. It wasn't long and he was teaching me. He has become an painter, sculpture and taxidermist and the best fisherman I know. Rockne Knuth Fond du Lac "Perhaps it is always the destined role of the compassionate to be strangers among men. To fail and pass, to fail and come again." Loren Eiseley Unexpected Universe --- On Sat, 10/24/09, jerry937975@xxxxxxx <jerry937975@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: jerry937975@xxxxxxx <jerry937975@xxxxxxx> Subject: [wisb] Re: RFI: Birding with a toddler...can it be done? To: agstutz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 5:23 PM Hey Aaron... I have two kids within 19 months of each other and used to bird with both of them. For a time, I had one on my back and one on my chest. As they grew, eventually they both just walked along with me. I used to be proud of the fact that my 2 year old could easily walk 4 or 5 miles. So I believe I can give some pretty sound advice. Change your definition of "quality birding". Yeah, the days of 150 species is behind you (unless of course you leave the kids behind), but the enjoyment of watching a 3 year old smell a dandelion or watch the ants going in and out of an ant hill is ahead of you (and of course the infinite number of awesome questions that come along with a child exploring the world). You might even get lucky and see a few birds. Though in foresight it seems like kids might hinder us from doing the things we want to do, in hind sight, regardless of the quality of birding, kids, whether you're out birding with them or missing the birds to watch th eir soccer games, are the greatest blessing God can give us. Look forward to a new definition of quality time. Jerry DeBoer Central Racine County -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Stutz <agstutz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Oct 24, 2009 4:04 pm Subject: [wisb] RFI: Birding with a toddler...can it be done? Hi all, As some of you know I have a 15 month old son that frequently ccompanies me on birding excursions. When my son was an infant, irding with him was pretty easy. I could put him in a backpack and ike for 5+ hours while he napped. Now my son is larger, heavier, naps ess and wants to explore areas on his own two feet. His increasing eight makes carrying him in the backpack and hiking trails less njoyable for me. He wrecks my posture and his movements make focusing inoculars a challenge. Clearly the easiest option is to just go irding without him, but if I only went birding when someone else could atch Jonas then my birding opportunities would be severely limited. So my question is.... Do any of you have suggestions on how to get some quality birding in hile accompanied by a toddler? Thanks in advance for your advice, Aaron Stutz adison, WI ane County P.S. There was a relatively late Turkey Vulture flying over my house oday and a good assortment of sparrows at the feeders. ################### ou received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding etwork (Wisbirdn). o UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: ttp://www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. o set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: ttp://www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. isit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn. #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn. #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn.