[wisb] MilwaukeeVermillion FLycatcher ID

  • From: Magill Weber <magill_weber@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:23:48 -0700

Hi Wisconsin birders,
I normally stay off this Listserv unless I'm back birding in Wisconsin, but I 
can't help myself in weighing in on this bird that's causing so much 
controversy today. Living in Arizona, I have the opportunity to observe both 
Vermillion Flycatchers and Say's Phoebes on a near daily basis. I'm 100 percent 
certain that the bird in Brian Hansen's photos is a female Vermillion 
Flycatcher. This plumage is typical for what I've been seeing lately for a 
spring female Vermillion Flycatcher.  The streaking shown in Brian's photos is 
totally inconsistent with even the dullest juvie Say's plumages. Say's always 
have an even, 'blurred' chest, with no real streaking, never shows white like 
this bird does, etc...
Beyond plumage basics, the shape and size the bird in Brian's photos is far 
more compact than Say's. (When fly catching, Say's will strike you as far 
larger, almost kingbird-like, while a Vermillion will be more empid-like.) The 
shape for this bird is right on for Vermillion, and all wrong for Say's. It 
lacks the long-tailed appearance, 'long and lean' look of Say's, and instead 
has the squatty, compact look of a Vermillion.

Magill Weber, Phoenix, AZ (formerly Madison)
Www.doorcountyhiking.com



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