----- Original Message ----- From: "jerry schoen" <basketsandbirds@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <calocitta8@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [wisb] Warblers, Suet, and paying for nothing > More suet feeding ideas. Icalled ahead to see when steers were going to be > cut up, spoke for the entire fat area around the kidney. Went to the > meat department at the local store. Picked up (for free0 the expandable > mesh bag they use to hold together smaller cuts to make a roast. Went to > the hardware store, picked up a 2 foot section of 6 inch stove pipe. Tied > one end of the bag shut and sliped it over the stove pipe.. Filled the > pipe with the suet and pushed it down as the bag was withdrawn. Tied the > top shot and hung up about a 15 pound chunk of suet which lasted most of > the winter. > Jerry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jesse Ellis" <calocitta8@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:21 PM > Subject: [wisb] Warblers, Suet, and paying for nothing > > >> Hey all- >> The several warblers reported attending suet feeders over the past month >> make a useful segue for something I've wanted to throw out on the list >> for a >> few months now. If you want to feed suet, esp. for lingerers like this, >> go >> for real suet. Find a butcher and buy some. Render it if you like. If you >> can find a local place, it's often dirt cheap (a buck a pound or so, even >> for "grass-fed" beef suet). >> >> Two reasons, in my mind. If anyone else differs on this, I'd appreciate >> hearing - I may well be wrong. >> >> 1) Birds come to suet for the fat. The fat, the fat, the fat. They are >> there >> for the calories. When you buy suet shot with millet and corn, you're >> only >> putting that stuff in the way of the birds that actually just want the >> fat. >> When you buy ORANGE-FLAVORED or BERRY-FLAVORED suet, you're doing nothing >> for the birds. I can't even believe those product exist. >> >> 2) When you buy premade suet cakes shot with corn and millet, you're >> ripping >> yourself off. Corn can be bought for 6 bucks a bushel (that's a price >> farmers LIKE, I think). (Google is telling me it's going for ¢381 a >> bushel >> right now...). Millet is cheap too. If you want to feed birds corn and >> millet, buy them separately and spread them out on the ground or on a >> platform feeder. Then go to your butcher and buy some suet and offer it >> separately. For $1.29 you get 8 oz of a mix of beef fat, corn and millet. >> For even more (>$2.00) you can add your berry flavor. All for a product >> that >> most birds would rather not eat as presented. (Peanuts, however, added to >> suet may be a different matter. Peanuts are high in fat and protein and >> birds who prefer suet would probably also eat peanuts - although I >> suspect >> warblers wouldn't). For a few bucks you can get a huge bag of corn, a >> pound >> of suet, and a bag of millet, a lot more than in a few of those suet >> cakes. >> >> How do you render suet? Chop it into little (littler seems to be better) >> bits and melt it in a pan. I've seen references that suggest rendering >> twice, pouring off the fat as it melts, and other things. Rendering is >> helpful insofar as you can shape the suet a bit, and that it will last >> longer in warm weather without going off. However, you can just cut a >> slice >> of the stuff and stick it in your suet feeder for most of a Wisconsin >> winter >> without worrying about it. >> >> Who eats suet? Species that are primarily or substantially insectivorous >> are >> the classic suet consumers. Nuthatches, chickadees, and woodpeckers are >> the >> winter standards, and none of them like corn or millet. Most sparrows and >> other granivorous birds don't care for suet, although I've seen Juncos >> and >> House Sparrows visiting suet feeders on occasion. Other winter lingerers >> that eat lots of insects can benefit from pure suet, as well. Wrens, >> mimic >> thrushes, and of course the warblers that kicked this off will all take >> suet >> in dire conditions. Ever seen a wren or warbler eating corn? No? Me >> neither. >> Shouldn't be in the suet if you want help out these lingerers. >> >> Why am I up on my soapbox about this? Mostly for the birds. I think >> standard >> capitalism and a bit of miseducation have lead people to think that the >> more >> complex the suet the better. This mostly seems to be an opportunity for >> companies to take cheap ingredients and mark everything way up (aka add >> value - but in this case it's not really of value to the organisms that >> matter, the birds). None of this benefits the birds that consumers are >> trying to help. I also don't like people with good intentions being >> ripped >> off. >> >> If anyone disagrees with my opinions or facts, please let me know. If >> there >> are truly good reasons for berry-flavored suet to be on the market, I'd >> like >> to know about it. >> >> Good feeder-birding today in the snow, everyone. >> >> Dr. Jesse Ellis >> Dept. of Zoology >> University of Wisconsin - Madison >> Dane County >> >> -- >> Jesse Ellis >> Madison, Dane Co, WI >> >> #################### >> You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin >> Birding Network (Wisbirdn). >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >> //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. >> To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >> //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. >> Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn. >> >> >> > #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. 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