I'm with Jesse, Greg and Danny on this one. As Jesse points out, there are different levels here - yes, an unusual sighting should definitely be reported/recorded (such as to eBird or this listserv,) even if "discovered" after the fact. However, if you're submitting a "Year" or "Life" list to an entity such as WSO or ABA, you should be playing by the same rules as everyone else. The ABA has a set of such rules (see www.aba.org(http://www.aba.org) - look under the "Birder Resources" tab for links to the Big Day rules, which pretty much apply here, also.) Rule Four states: (4) Diagnostic field-marks for the bird, sufficient to identify to species, must have been seen and/or heard and/or documented by the recorder at the time of the encounter. (although note that they don't specifically address photography. It's apparent from the context that they seem to be referring to field notes/sketches. They do address the subject of confirming rarities via photographs elsewhere.) Personally, I wouldn't count a species on my year or state or life lists unless I had IDed it to my satisfaction while observing it, or after dispelling any lingering doubts through checking a field guide or online resource later. IF I had a camera with me and took a photo of that particular bird because I was pretty sure it was something different/rare, and if I had also made note of what field marks I could discern while observing it, I would likely count it if I later enlarged said photo and was able to confirm my suspicion. But if I then noticed another species in the same photo that I hadn't noticed while in the field... no, sorry, I just couldn't bring myself to count it. Peter Fissel Madison WI #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn