[wisb] Re: CBC archives?
- From: "Mark and Sue Martin" <goosep@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <trschultz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <bettie@xxxxxxxxxx>, <dkkearns@xxxxxxxxxx>, <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:59:54 -0600
Hi
I agree with Tom that this is an unfortunate situation. Ideally all counts
would be submitted to National Audubon Society. With today's computer
capabilities it is impressive on how available the data is for all the North
American Counts Audubon Counts. One of the main reasons counts are done is
to provide
long-term data on bird populations. I assume some of this data is useful
for bird
conservation. My guess is that researchers or those interested in looking
at
CBC data are not going to go to the effort to find non Audubon count
results. Many researchers probably are not aware of all the additional WSO
counts done in Wisconsin.
Sue and I coordinated Poynette Count. I also
assist on 4 other counts. I will only assist with Audubon CBCs since I feel
it is that important that the data should be available for everyone to use.
I know that it can be difficult to collect the $5.00 from some field
observers. However, Madison Audubon Society feels that it is very important
to provide National Audubon with the CBC data for the Madison and Poynette
Counts and covers all costs. This especially helps out the Madison
compiler(s) that would have to collect $5 from 115 field observers this
year. One idea in the future would be for Madison Audubon to have an
endowment fund to cover CBC expenses. The Poynette CBC costs Madison
Audubon Society about $125 - 22 field observers at $5@ and postage for
feeder
observers. Ideally if MAS had $3,000 in an endowment fund designated for
funding
the Poynette CBC, Madison Audubon would never have to raise or provide other
funds to cover the Poynette count.
We also try and make it easy to particpate as a feeder counter. The
Poynette CBC
has about 20 feeder observers. Some have email. The others are sent data
forms along with a stamped return envelope. We also use printed address
labels on data sheets and envelopes. It takes only a few days for all the
data to arrive by postal mail.
If you read this far you know that I feel strongly about supporting the
National Audubon Bird Counts.
Mark Martin
Goose Pond Sanctuary Columbia County
Arlington
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Schultz" <trschultz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bettie@xxxxxxxxxx>; <dkkearns@xxxxxxxxxx>; <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:31 AM
Subject: [wisb] Re: CBC archives?
> Just to clarify, some WI CBC counts go only to WSO,
> some counts go only to National Audubon, and
> some count results are reported to both organizations.
>
> As a result, it is very difficult to obtain the complete results for all
> of
> the Wisconsin CBCs.
>
> This is an unfortunate situation, but it has developed because National
> Audubon charges a fee for each counter (to help support the entire
> Christmas
> count project), while WSO does not charge a fee. Some CBC counters do not
> feel that they should have to pay to participate when they go out to count
> birds, so as a result we have two different count totals for the state,
> two
> different WI count editors, and two different pools of data.
>
> Tom Schultz
> Green Lake Co.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bettie R. Harriman" <bettie@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <dkkearns@xxxxxxxxxx>; <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:10 AM
> Subject: [wisb] Re: CBC archives?
>
>
>> Thank you Kevin,
>>
>> I was about to send the message out. Most Wisconsin CBC are NOT sent
>> to Audubon, so you need the Pigeon to find the total results. Most
>> often the CBC report in the Pigeon is in either Summer or Fall issue.
>>
>> Bettie Harriman, Co-Editor
>> Oshkosh
>>
>> At 07:42 AM 12/30/2009, Kevin wrote:
>>>The link sent only gives Audubon results and does not include all of the
>>>counts done. Wisconsin has a total of 41 counts submitted when we
>>>actually
>>>had around 100 for 2009. For the total count data, see the Passenger
>>>Pigeon
>>>which is online at
>>>http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/EcoNatRes/subcollections/PassPigeonAbout.ht
>>>ml
>>>You will need to know which issues have the CBC results in them, but it
>>>is
>>>easy enough to search or browse through the indexes. It does not include
>>>the
>>>previous three years, but any good WSO member should have these in their
>>>home library anyway.
>>>Kevin kearns
>>>Neenah
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: wisbirdn-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:wisbirdn-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Brian Hansen
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:01 PM
>>>To: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [wisb] CBC archives?
>>>
>>>
>>>Are the Wisconsin CBCs archived anywhere online? If so can someone
>>>please
>>>send me link.
>>>Thank you,
>>>Brian Hansen
>>>Milwaukee
>>>
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