[wisb] Re: A clarification on GGOW posts
- From: Ralph Curtis <photos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Wisconsin Birding Network <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:34:33 -0500
Thank you Peter, especially about the input about photographers.
Last night, I showed up at the Scuppernong Prairie to photograph the
Short-eared Owls, and I actually felt embarrassed to get out of the car with
photo equipment, due to the actions of a few with the GGO.
I just ask that birders please do not lump ALL photographers into an uncaring
category like the few mellonheads involved with the GGO.
Thank you,
Ralph Curtis
Genesee, WI
On Mar 10, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Peter Fissel wrote:
> Sorry I didn't post something sooner, folks - my internet access has been
> very glitchy all weekend (so much for doing my taxes online.)
>
> Anyway, I wanted to clarify that the primary reason I unsubscribed Cathy
> wasn't because she posted a rant, although that didn't help her case any. It
> was mainly because she forwarded to the entire list a string of rather
> profane emails she'd received backchannel. This is a no-no - both because of
> the profanity, and also because it is very bad form on any email listserv to
> share emails meant only for you (unless you have explicit permission from the
> sender.) I realize this happens inadvertently sometimes, when you hit "Reply
> All" (or "Reply List", as my email says,) instead of just "Reply", but doing
> it deliberately is never a good idea.
>
> I have received several very positive reports of people's experiences viewing
> the owl in the last couple of days, and the senders were worried I'd
> unsubscribe them. Rest assured, that was not my intention. By all means,
> report good behavior!
>
> The really sad, upsetting part about all this is that the actions of a very
> few idiots has led to a lot of impassioned outrage, which at times has caused
> people to imply that "photographers" are the problem. Well, no - clueless
> dolts are the problem, in any walk of life. Some of my best birding buddies
> are photographers, and I know for a fact that none of them would try to pull
> some of the stunts reported here.
>
> To turn this around, if you were a (responsible) photographer who was also
> really into birds, and you read all the rants on here the last week or so
> about how evil photographers in general are, wouldn't your opinion of birders
> in general take a nosedive? Would you feel welcome after some of the things
> posted here? (Again, by a very few individuals - who have now colored the
> perception of an entire group by their actions, unfortunately.)
>
> This is already getting longer than I had intended, so I'll stop now. Thanks
> to all of you who sent supportive emails to me - yes, this job can be a trial
> at times, but in general, this is a fantastic group of folks. We may fight
> like siblings at times, but we are one big family, after all.
>
> Peter Fissel
> Wisbirdn Admin/Monitor Guy
> Madison WI
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