Hi Darragh, You raise an interesting point. Mary Emerson, recently did a podcast on MS Security Essentials for Blind Cool Tech. She made the point that, even though she has a paid subscription to Grisoft' anti-virus and firewall, she's removed them, and installed MS Security Essentials instead. She's also removed much loved progs like Ad Aware and Spybot S&D. her main reason is that MS Security Essentials is very easy to use. Incidentally, is there a difference between Grisoft's combined anti-virus and firewall, and their Personal Identity program? I downloaded a trial version of Personal Identity (or whatever it's called,) as a stopgap,As my Grisoft anti-virus / firewall had expired. Now that I've renewed my subscription and reinstalled the program, I keep getting expiry reminders concerning Personal Identity I just ignore them as I never subscribed to the program. Am I correct in assuming that Personal Identity is separate from the Anti-virus / firewall prog, and not a part of it Regards with thanks, Eamonn "Darragh" <lists@digitaldar ragh.com> To Sent by: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> vicsireland-bounc cc e@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject [vicsireland] Nod32 compared to 03/11/2009 16:17 Windows Security Essentials. Please respond to vicsireland@freel ists.org Good afternoon, Just in case some of you haven't heard about it already, there is a new antivirus tool available from Microsoft called Security essentials. This does most of what other antivirus applications do. An anti virus application that has been touted as the best in terms of accessibility for a good while was Nod32. However, GWMicro, the creator of Window eyes are encouraging users to move to security essentials as they claim it is more accessible. If any of you are thinking of switching, I would urge you not to. Security essentials is a great product. It integrates very well with Windows but it does not include a very important feature, Heuristic analysis of new possible infections. Heuristic analysis is a check that determines if there is malicious intent or abilities when an application is run. The benefit of this is that even if the antivirus application that you use does not have a particular virus in its database, it still has the potential to catch it before it does harm to your computer. This can happen often. With the rare exception, antivirus companies release updates once per week. That leaves a week where new virus writers can get something onto your computer. This is yet another incident where GWMicro are being irresponsible with the advice they are dishing out. 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