Hi Maria, As per my original email I had played around with options in the view menu but to no avail. Now for the benefit of you and others on the list this is exactly what I am trying to do, I think. My items were in first folders by alphabetical order then files by alphabetical order. Anybody any ideas how to return me to this position? Roslyn ----- Original Message ----- From: maria To: vics Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 6:31 PM Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Arranging items in folders Hi Roslyn. try GOING INTO THE VIEW MENU AND FROM THERE, ARROW OR CLICK WITH YOUR MOUSE UNTIL YOU HEAR YOUR JAWS OR YOUR MAGNIFICATION PROGRAM SAY: "ARRANGE ICONS BY SUBMENU. hit ENTER ON THAT and fiddle AROUND WITH THE OPTIONS IN THAT SUBMENU. perhaps YOU'D BE ABLE TO GET YOUR Folder TO IT'S ORIGINAL ORDER. I hope this helps. All the best and enjoy the rest of your weekend. Maria.