(VICT) Re: thank you Ann

From: "Ann Edie" <annedie@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:40:47 -0500
Hi, Rox,

Thanks so much for the click!  As for treats, hearing from you is always one 
of my favorites!  And in the food treat catagory, I prefer the horses' 
carrots, apples, and pepermints to the doggie treats!  That's just one more 
benefit of working with a little horse partner--we can share our goodies. 
Of course, I'm sure the dogs would like to share most of the things that 
their humans eat, too, but that desire is not usually reciprocated by the 
humans.

I know what you mean about the attitudes and training solutions offered on 
some of the other guide dog lists.  It can get pretty discouraging listening 
to how they think about and behave toward the beings who they claim to be 
their devoted partners.  That's why this group is so important and precious! 
It is a place where we can grow in our clicker training perspective and 
methodology, without having to defend the use of positive reinforcement, 
including food, and where we don't have to justify our decision not to use 
punishment or "correction" as a training tool.

I hope you and your family, and all the doggie girls and boy, have a 
wonderful and prosperous New Year, 2008!

Ann

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower@xxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: (VICT) thank you Ann


> Ann,
>
> What a wonderful post.  I honestly loved reading it.  It seems that of 
> late
> I've been reading (on other guide dog lists) about positive punishers and
> negative reinforcers, corrections, dominance and all around force.
> It is a breath of fresh air to read about your work with Panda because it 
> is
> such a fine example of what clicker training is all about; partnership.
>
> Thank you for being such a fine example to me, by leading with your 
> actions
> and teaching others with kindness and showing positive reinforcement at
> work!
> You deserve a click of your own, but I won't give you dehydrated liver; it
> probably wouldn't taste too good.
>
> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> Bristol, Gracy, Mill'E
> "Everything on the earth has a purpose, every disease an herb to cure it,
> and every person a mission. This is the Indian theory of
> existence." ---Mourning
> Dove [Christine Quintasket] (1888-1936) Salish
> Pawpower@xxxxxxx
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>
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