Cool new tech! I was being sarcastic with the "who needs manuals" bit. What fool sells a product for blind and/or visually impaired and doesn't provide instructions they can actually use? Still, it sounds awfully = handy. I'm interested in how well it works for you. Tami Smith-Kinney -----Original Message----- From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bcpaws4me Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:31 AM To: Vi-clicker Subject: (VICT) Mini-guide/Tami The Mini-guide is pretty complicated in terms of settings. I think I = will=20 eventually get it figured out but it will take a bit to work comfortably = with it I think. I will love it for traffic I think. I have to go on a=20 conversion site though as its based on the metric system and I want to = be=20 sure how far I set it for better than just an idea. Anyway it vibrates pulses. It does have an audio function but obviously = I=20 won't use that. The faster/ harder the vibrations the closer to you the = item is. I have to try it outside though I think and it caustions against = rain so I might not be able to use it too much for a while. I could use it in = stores though which is one of my biggest issues as people just think the midst = of=20 the aisle right in front of me is where they will stop and congregate to = catch up with each other... Anyway when I can get it figured out and know better how it can help me = with Thane (down the road of course) I will share more. Karyn and Thane=20