Hi Karyn, Maybe he could cense something was wrong and needed the world to hear it. Maybe the person was staring at him or doing something else they shouldn't have? I'd take him out at that time every day and see if the same thing happens. Maybe have someone go with the two of you and help you figure out what is going on, just so you know how to handle it better. Good luck Jackie and Cola Want to see what we are up to: check out our live journal at: http://jackie_rumble.livejournal.com join dogs-with-jobs at: dogs-with-jobs-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Join Technical-support at: technical-support-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Karyn and Thane Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:06 PM To: Vi-clicker Subject: (VICT) Input on Behavior I could use some input on something that happened today. Please remember that Thane is young (will be a year soon) and has only been with me a couple months. We have not had much success with leash training but I am trying hard and know we will succeed. I am not happy with any of the gear I have for Thane and honestly the GL is worse than anything but hopefully the gear problem will be rectified soon as I am going to make him a harness. Anyway we went for a short walk this afternoon- only because Thane kept showing me my shoes Smile Thane loves people so rather than trying to fight with his love to go say hello to the world and ruin my shoulder even worse, sometimes I opt to just stop, put Thane in a *sit and let people pass by. Today we got in a weird scenario though. I knew someone was there by Thane's reaction but it took me a while to figure out just where. This person would not move on to save our souls. If they said anything it certainly was not loud enough for me. I was getting a bit uneasy about the situation. All of a sudden Thane barked a couple times. I finally decided to take him home rather than deal with what could have been an unsafe scenario. I did not know the person whether they were male or female and it was far later than when school buses drop off kids here. How could i have dealt with this differently but in a manner that I could be in control of the situation. I suspect Thane barked because the person was not following the *rules* as he had become accustomed to- that is, they did not walk by when he was placed in a *sit* and I pulled over. I don't want him thinking he needs to take control of people who are not following the rules. Chances are this person was standing there *gaulking* at us. I have gotten that more times than I care to count since using a guide cane along with my wheelchair. No one gaulked when Met was guiding me so enough already ya know. On the other hand, I want to be sure I am not overlooking a problem erupting behaviorly with Thane. I doubt that is what it is but would really like to hear others thoughts about the situation. Once he had barked at whoever this was, I just felt more comfortable leaving since I had no idea who this person was or why they had refused to move when offered before he even considered barking- I just had no idea what this persons intentions were and I felt a bit unnerved, Being deaf blind does add additional complications as many of the approaches usually used to gain information about ones environment when they are blind just are not feasible when one is deaf blind. I am just hoping that I can get some input on how to handle things differently before Thane feels the need to bark at the person. Karyn and Thane