(VICT) Re: I clicker
- From: "Brenda-Ann Gillis" <hc89x48@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 12:46:35 -0400
Hi Ann and all,
I don't know if this will help, but it made sense to me and works for Ivy.
When Meg first explained the concept of clicker training to me, she
suggested that the "click" was like a behavior marker that bridges the time
in between getting the behavior (or the proximity thereof) and the reward.
For me, remembering the process in this way prevents me from using the click
in lieu of the command and/or inadvertently reinforcing the wrong behavior.
Guess that's just a good way for my brain to think of it.
Another tip she gave me that works for Ivy, is to replace the mechanical
click with a specific sound (such as the one Ann suggested) or even a word.
In our case, an exuberant "YES!!" works just as effectively as the clicker
for us. Using a word seems easier for me and I feel less silly than I do
trying to click my Tongue -- when I do it I sound like a chicken on ludes
and have even bitten my tongue. VBG I am also one of those "get up and go"
types and often find myself out and about with a wonderful training
opportunity and then discover I forgot to grab the clicker on the way out.
I forget treats too sometimes, but Ivy graciously accepts a crazy happy
dance and a pat from me instead -- provided, of course, that it come with a
promise of Frisbee or other shaping game when we get back home.
Just some additional thoughts on the subject.
Respectfully,
Brenda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Edie" <annedie@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:47 PM
Subject: (VICT) Re: I clicker
> Hi, Dar,
>
> The mechanical clicker is a good thing to use when your dog is first
> learning about what the click means, and it is good to continue using the
> mechanical clicker when your dog is some distance away from you, such as
> when he is running around in the yard.
>
> But once the dog understands the meaning of the click, you can switch to
> making a click sound with your tongue. It works just the same as the
> mechanical click; the dog knows that it means he has done what you wanted
> and has earned a treat or other reward. And it doesn't require a hand to
> use and doesn't cost anything, and is always within easy reach, and never
> gets lost.
>
> Can you make a distinct clicking sound by pressing the flat of your tongue
> against the roof of your mouth and then sucking air *in*? If you can't
> make
> that sound--and some people just can't seem to get that one--then you can
> use the type of clicking sound that people use to immitate the sound of a
> horse's clip-clopping hooves,where you raise your tongue to the roof of
> your
> mouth and then slap it down to just behind your teeth. Whichever sound
> you
> choose, your dog will become accustomed to the sound and will recognize it
> as the same as the click made by the mechanical clicker.
>
> Hope that helps. Sorry you are having so much difficulty getting your
> clicker.
>
> Ann
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:41 PM
> Subject: (VICT) I clicker
>
>
>> Hi folks,
>> this morning I called Vet America, where they told me they didn't have
>> the
>> I
>> clickers but she would tell me where I could get some.
>> She did call back, and said Pet Smart carries them.
>> Fine, I just got off Pet smart and they don't carry them.
>> How is it you get told one thing and then another.
>> This kind of thing drives me crazy.
>> I find the web sites given here harder for me to handle.
>> When I talked to the lady on the phone, because I didn't understand what
>> was
>> happening and still don't, I don't want this kind of treatment again.
>> When I am out and about, I can't use the clicker like I would like, with
>> using a walking cane as well as the dog.
>> I don't seem to understand why I didn't come up with a third hand giggle.
>> Just some thoughts.
>>
>> --Dar
>> Every saint has a future,
>> Every sinner has a past
>>
>>
>
>
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