Thanks to all who answered me about the good old days. I love learning this
stuff. I'm such a birding geek!
Betsy True
Alexandria, VA
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http://www.betsytruedesigns.com ;
and my blog: http://betsytruedesigns.blogspot.com ;
See Lynda Prioleau's website:
http://www.matlyndesigns.com ;
-------Original Message-------
From: Bazuin.John@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 11/14/2006 1:46:31 PM
To: brnpelican@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: betc@xxxxxxx; va-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; va-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [va-bird] Re: The Good Old Days
All,
And Northern Harrier used to be Marsh Hawk. Scott is generically
right about what a Chicken Hawk is, but the term was (is) much less
likely to apply to a small hawk, even though those can kill chicks. My
experience with the term is that it was most likely to refer to Cooper's
Hawk (they do or did raid chicken yards and the females can fairly
easily kill a hen), but probably also regularly referred to Northern
Harriers and Red-tailed Hawks and might refer to Red-shouldered Hawks
occasionally. The term was in widespread use but certain groups of
people probably used it in different ways. People "on the land" who
were losing chickens were probably more discriminating as to what they
called a Chicken Hawk than were hunters who just wanted to shoot hawks,
for example.
Now can we talk about "seagulls"?
John Bazuin
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Scott Baron
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Peregrine Falcon used to be Duck Hawk, Merlin used to
be Pigeon Hawk, American Kestrel used to be Sparrow
Hawk.
From what I can tell, "chicken hawk" is a term used by
some rural Americans that can mean any type of bird
prey-type bird. In college, I remember arguing w/ a
girl who insisted that a Turkey Vulture that was
soaring over the road was a "chicken hawk." Drove me
crazy.
Scott Baron
Fairfax, Va.
--- Betsy True <betc@xxxxxxx> wrote:
now-extinct "chicken hawks!"<<Too bad I never got to see one of these
and
a note stating thatI was reading one from the late thirties and found
two duck hawks were observed on Bitter Lake and they
were quickly dispatched
"<<
For us newer birders--are there new names for "duck
hawks" and "chicken
hawks"? I know osprey used to be "fish hawks"
Betsy True
Alexandria, VA
Check out my website:
http://www.betsytruedesigns.com ;
and my blog: http://betsytruedesigns.blogspot.com ;
See Lynda Prioleau's website:
http://www.matlyndesigns.com ;
-------Original Message-------
From: LarryNTA@xxxxxxx
Date: 11/14/2006 10:35:54 AM
To: va-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [va-bird] The Good Old Days
A recent issue of The Shenandoah Valley-Herald (Oct
25) published a series
of reprints under the heading of "Yester Years"
(page C4). Among them was
the following item from the "Shenandoah Valley"
October 25, 1906: "Mr. A. J.
Fansler recently killed a chicken hawk that measured
3 feet and a [sic] 2
inches from tip to tip and later Mr. J. H. Miller
killed a chicken hawk that
measured 3 feet tip to tip of wings."
Larry Kline
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