In a message dated 11/22/03 11:57:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, jimmoss888@xxxxxxx writes: Can you help with this one? I don't use any of those Jim so I don't even know what you are talking about. CT2 is a new expression to me....... is that part of XP or something? Since I know nothing about the apps I can't offer any advice other than KISS (keep it simple stupid) and don't generate a string of events just to turn the lights off? ************************************************************** "We have a criminal jury system which is superior to any in the world; and its efficiency is only marred by the difficulty of finding twelve men every day who don't know anything and can't read." Mark Twain