Joey, Thanks for hooking me up with that guy! He sure was an interesting fellow with lots of Commodore stuff. I got the PLA's I needed (and some spares). Steve ________________________________ From: joseph palumbo <jppbm@xxxxxxxxxx> To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 6:24:40 PM Subject: [torontocbm] Re: Spare PLA chips? Steve and others.... I heard that there is this guy up in the north end of the city with a bunch of 1581 kits, and Super Snapshot cartridges! I took these pictures of some of the chips he recovered several yrs back after torching 75-c64's.....Twice! He has all kinds of PLA's....They just need someone to test them out... Give me a call and I'm sure I can hook the to of you up for these chips.... JP PBM Products by Mail www.jppbm.com 416 240 8993 --- On Fri, 5/1/09, STEVE GRAY <sjgray@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: STEVE GRAY <sjgray@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [torontocbm] Re: Spare PLA chips? To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Received: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:19 PM I tend to believe that there WERE tons of machines but over time they were sold and people like us have a lot of them. I know people see the value of these old machines and pick them up when they see them and put them on ebay. Like anything if there is a surplus of it, it becomes almost worthless and is thrown away (yes it happens), then as it becomes harder to find it becomes valuable again and is collected or saved. PLA chips have become valuable because the tended to fail and you don't see them much any more. I was hoping someone might have a dead machine that hopefully had a good PLA... Steve ________________________________ From: Gil Winkler <kimmyland@xxxxxxxxx> To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:42:50 PM Subject: [torontocbm] Re: Spare PLA chips? Yeah well.....unless they are in a landfill somewhere, some surplus place (in the States, here, who knows, MUST have TONS of them and maybe they can be found online? Haven't spent the time looking, just deducing from logic. Gil On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:40 PM, James Alexander <james.m.alexander@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Yes Commodore was very popular for a number of years with various models. Some of the places in the same vein as goodwill and value village won't take anything that is not "PC" which they consider to be "windows only", seems surplus places are going the same way unfortunately. Places selling Commodore and others from the same era are more specialized and much fewer. Gil Winkler wrote: Nods James......It was a decade ago that I went there and they were all over....PETs especially. But I can't beleive that they are all gone....does not make sense....they are SOMEWHERE, just have to keep digging. After all, wasn't PET the most popular selling PC for many years? GIl On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:05 PM, James Alexander <james.m.alexander@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:james.m.alexander@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Hey Gil, I haven't seen any Commodore or any other 80's computer items at Active surplus for over a year myself though I do look whenever I'm there. Gil Winkler wrote: C64 motherboards should be all over the place (dead or alive) at surplus places. Have you tried Active surplus on Queen/spadina? Gil On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:15 AM, STEVE GRAY <sjgray@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sjgray@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:sjgray@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sjgray@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: While attempting to fix a C64 motherboard I mistakenly swapped PLA's into the SID socket... guess what?... PLA's don't like 12V :-( A long shot, but does anyone have any spare PLA chips? They don't seem to show up on eBay very often these days... I know I can get work-alike replacements for about $10 each but I'd like to try to find real chips first if possible. Steve