It's too bad that you feel that you need to remove the braille tile sets, because we've also been using this beta in integration witn the student's sighted peers. They look forward to being able to play games with our students and we can use it as a teaching opportunity for sighted peers. It gives sighted students a basic understanding of what braille is. And, since braille in a regular Ed. setting is mostly taught in isolation, the braille tile sets could be used to promote less alienation for our students in an integrated setting. Our teaching a partially sighted student braille has nothing to do with playing this game. Rather than removing the braille tilesets altogether, just use different sets with partially sighted braille readers if it's truly a concern for you. I know that all of the partially sighted braille readers that I work with, prefer not to use the braille tilesets based on contrast and lighting alone. They (braille tilesets) are too bright to keep staring at, when compared to the universe tilesets for example. Brian Sargee -----Original Message----- From: toodle-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:toodle-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ELAINE KITCHEL Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 7:37 AM To: toodle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [toodle] Re: Bug fix Hi Sue, The Christmas set was made from bits of Corel Christmas graphics. We had the rights to them, but the resolution was so poor, they looked terrible. It would have required a great deal of work to bring them up to the specs needed by people with low vision. That is why they were eliminated. I might as well tell you that the braille tiles are being eliminated too because it is not considered a good practice to teach people with low vision to learn to read braille visually. It is a habit, that once learned, is hard to break. Perhaps we can come out with a Christmas set as an add-on later, or better yet, the game is equipped with the software to make your own. Thanks, Elaine >>> susanmangis@xxxxxxxxxxx 02/24/06 02:15PM >>> I happen to enjoy the Christmas set. So since it wasn't in the latest version, I didn't update yet. Why was it removed? Sue Mangis -----Original Message----- From: toodle-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:toodle-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ELAINE KITCHEL Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 7:27 AM To: toodle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [toodle] Re: Bug fix Larry and fellas, I downloaded the new version of Toodle Tiles, but the Christmas and Braille tiles are still there. I'm wondering if this is occuring with other players too and if so, what do we need to do to eliminate them? Elaine