[tn-moths] Re: FOYs Washington County
- From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:37:44 -0700 (PDT)
The list on BAMONA for Marion should be relatively complete. Many counties are
lacking reports on common species probably just because no one living there has
been reporting to BAMONA.
A definitive photograph is necessary to get a record accepted by BAMONA. Some
species are very similar so you may need a photo of a specific part of the bug
to be sure of the ID. A good example are Juvenal's and Horace's Duskywings.
From the top they look virtually identical but from below the Juvenal's usually
has 2 pale spots near the upper margin of the hindwing. Horace's don't have
these spots.
There are some like the Checkered-Skippers that can't be ID'd from a photo so
the only way to get a record is to collect some and send them to an expert for
microscopic examination. Some people are against the killing of a butterfly or
moth, even if it's for research purposes so records of Common and White
Checkered-Skippers are few and far between. I have no problem with it,
especially if what you're collecting is a common insect but I respect opposing
opinions on the matter.
Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County
http://www.finishflagfarms.com
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From: J.N. & Ella Howard <birders3@xxxxxxxxx>
To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 4:02:43 PM
Subject: [tn-moths] Re: FOYs Washington County
Ken,
Thank you very much for your helpful information. I am happy to have the
opportunity to connect with the groups keeping up with ovservations of
butterflies and moths. I have been doing it on my own for a few years and
continue to be fascinated by them and glad for any help in accuracy and
discovery. Let me ask one more question at this time and appreciate your time.
I went to the BAMONA site and the Marion County list. Do I assume that the
ones named on the cuurent list are all the ones which have been reported for
Marion County? I see some absenses that are surprising like, for instance
Zebra Swallowtail, which is very plentiful with us. Maybe one more connected
question which I think you answered, but should a photograph accompany a
report? I would want to be accurate, but some are quite hard to photograph
like the Browns, etc.
Thanks again. I look forward to more involvement.
J. N.
Howard
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:25 AM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I know Larry is busy so maybe I can save him some time by answering some of
your questions. I'm the owner/moderator for the TN-Butterflies list and the
handling of records etc should be similar for TN-Moths.
>
>Official county records are kept by the Butterflies and Moths of North America
>(BAMONA) website. It's a great site and I suggest that you take some time and
>give it a good look.
>
>http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org
>
>It looks like Marion County is pretty wide open for new records.
>
>http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/map?dc=1404&_dcc=1&si=43
>
>For now, Jason D. Roberts <entoman@xxxxxxxxx> , is in charge of processing
>county moth records for Tennessee. Unfortunately he is overwhelmed so any
>records sent to him probably won't show up on the BAMONA site for awhile. IMO,
>the best thing to do is save all your records until BAMONA implements there
>new record submission system in late summer/early fall. Once that system goes
>live, you'll be able to submit your sightings directly to the site. Don't
>quote me on this but I've heard that confirmed ID's won't be necessary to
>submit a new record. It may be as simple as submitting a photo with the
>location, date and name of the person that made the sighting under the heading
>of "moth" or "butterfly"and they'll take it from there.
>
>Posts sent to this list are mainly for county FOY (first of the year)
>sightings, ID help and the general sharing of Moth related information. If you
>are confident of an ID, a photo isn't necessary for reporting a FOY sighting.
>There were some problems last month with our group using up too much bandwidth
>with attached photographs. Our allotted space was filled up early in the month
>so posts stopped being saved to the archives. Freelists is working on the
>problem but for now, try to use a hosting site for your photos like
>Photobucket or Flickr and then send links in your posts.
>
> Ken Childs
>Henderson, TN
>Chester County
>
>http://www.finishflagfarms.com
>
>
>
________________________________
From: J.N. & Ella Howard <birders3@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 9:35:41 AM
>Subject: [tn-moths] Re: FOYs Washington County
>
>
>
>Larry,
> Jean Obrist has told me that you are the moderator of the Tn. Moth group
> so I need to ask a couple of questions and hope they are too much trouble.
> First, when I observe a moth is it good just to report that to the group as a
> whole so that it may be recorded for Marion County. Second, I imagine it is
> best to send a photograph, but are they being kept on file? Third, can I
> find out who else in Marion County is observing and which species are already
> recorded? I am new to the group and, although I have been enjoying keeping
> my own records for a few years, I want to do it more effectively and am
> trying to take photos, etc. I hope you can respond without it being a lot of
> trouble. All the best to you.
>
> J. N. Howard
>
> Fiery Gizzard Cove
>
> Marion County
>
>
>On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Larry McDaniel <larrycmcd@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>Adela ridingsella - Hodges#0228 (Adela ridingsella)
>>Grape Leaffolder - Hodges#5159 (Desmia funeralis)
>>>>Grapevine Looper - Hodges#7196 (Eulithis sp.)
>>
>>Came to my porch light in Johnson City, TN on 6-5-10.
>>>>
>>0228 was a first for me. Check out the antennas on the attached photo.
>>5159 ID based on 28 mm wingspan.
>>7196 I can't be sure of species.
>>
>>My photos of these can be seen at http://www.flickr.com/photos/27634081@N06/
>>
>>Larry McDaniel
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with
>>Hotmail. Get busy.
>
>
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