[tn-moths] Re: 3172 Epiblema strenuana
- From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, TN Moths <tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:24:42 -0700 (PDT)
When I say double I'm not referring to length or wingspan. I'm more or less
referring to bulk so this may explain what I'm seeing.
When I get some time I'll do a thread count measurement and see if this fits.
Thanks!
Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County
http://tinyurl.com/Kens-Moths-2011
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From: J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: TN Moths <tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: 3172 Epiblema strenuana
According to Gilligan et al, the Epiblema strenuana is a complex of at
least two forms, strenuana and minutana, but no consensus whether they
represent distinct species. Strenuana is larger, FWL: 5.5-8.5mm and
minutana smaller, FWL: 4.5-7.0. That is not close to double a size
difference so it sounds like you definitely have two species.
Merrill
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:06 PM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I get 2 moths here that have the same colors and pattern as what's pictured
> on MPG but the size is drastically different. There's one that's small and
> very slender and the other which is at least double the size and is a much
> more robust looking moth. I never see anything in between these sizes so I'm
> guessing there are really at least 2 different species pictured on MPG.
>
> http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=3172
> There's no need to say that many of these small Torts cannot be ID'd
> visually but I'd like to know if I'm missing something like sexual
> dimorphism etc. on this species.
>
> Ken Childs
> Henderson, TN
> Chester County
>
> http://tinyurl.com/Kens-Moths-2011
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J. Merrill Lynch
Echo Valley Farm
Watauga County, NC
Elevation: 3,400 feet
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