[TN-Butterflies] Re: [tn-moths] Re: FOYs Washington County
- From: "Stephen Stedman" <SStedman@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:46:42 -0500
See this page of my website for specifics on getting butterflies added
to county lists at BAMONA:
http://iweb.tntech.edu/sstedman/ButterflyDocumentationTN.htm
To be sure that a species has not been documented for a county (or is
not in the process of being documented), be sure you check not only the
BAMONA website, but also the 2010 FOY page, which shows, for instance,
that Dave Spicer has a Zebra Swallowtail record for Marion County in the
pipeline for addition to the Marion County list. [By the end of June I
will have submitted all 2010 county records, so this step will not be
needed after mid-summer, but for now it's good to do.]
Steve Stedman
TN Butterfly Coordinator, BAMONA
Link to 2010 FOY page for butterflies:
http://iweb.tntech.edu/sstedman/ButterflySightingsTN2010.htm
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[mailto:tn-moths-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of kjchilds
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:38 PM
To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tn-moths] Re: FOYs Washington County
The list on BAMONA for Marion should be relatively complete. Many
counties are lacking reports on common species probably just because no
one living there has been reporting to BAMONA.
A definitive photograph is necessary to get a record accepted by BAMONA.
Some species are very similar so you may need a photo of a specific part
of the bug to be sure of the ID. A good example are Juvenal's and
Horace's Duskywings. From the top they look virtually identical but from
below the Juvenal's usually has 2 pale spots near the upper margin of
the hindwing. Horace's don't have these spots.
There are some like the Checkered-Skippers that can't be ID'd from a
photo so the only way to get a record is to collect some and send them
to an expert for microscopic examination. Some people are against the
killing of a butterfly or moth, even if it's for research purposes so
records of Common and White Checkered-Skippers are few and far between.
I have no problem with it, especially if what you're collecting is a
common insect but I respect opposing opinions on the matter.
Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County
http://www.finishflagfarms.com
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From: J.N. & Ella Howard <birders3@xxxxxxxxx>
To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 4:02:43 PM
Subject: [tn-moths] Re: FOYs Washington County
Ken,
Thank you very much for your helpful information. I am happy to
have the opportunity to connect with the groups keeping up with
ovservations of butterflies and moths. I have been doing it on my own
for a few years and continue to be fascinated by them and glad for any
help in accuracy and discovery. Let me ask one more question at this
time and appreciate your time. I went to the BAMONA site and the Marion
County list. Do I assume that the ones named on the cuurent list are
all the ones which have been reported for Marion County? I see some
absenses that are surprising like, for instance Zebra Swallowtail, which
is very plentiful with us. Maybe one more connected question which I
think you answered, but should a photograph accompany a report? I would
want to be accurate, but some are quite hard to photograph like the
Browns, etc.
Thanks again. I look forward to more involvement.
J. N. Howard
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:25 AM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I know Larry is busy so maybe I can save him some time by answering some
of your questions. I'm the owner/moderator for the TN-Butterflies list
and the handling of records etc should be similar for TN-Moths.
Official county records are kept by the Butterflies and Moths of North
America (BAMONA) website. It's a great site and I suggest that you take
some time and give it a good look.
http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org <http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/>
It looks like Marion County is pretty wide open for new records.
http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/map?dc=1404&_dcc=1&si=43
For now, Jason D. Roberts <entoman@xxxxxxxxx> , is in charge of
processing county moth records for Tennessee. Unfortunately he is
overwhelmed so any records sent to him probably won't show up on the
BAMONA site for awhile. IMO, the best thing to do is save all your
records until BAMONA implements there new record submission system in
late summer/early fall. Once that system goes live, you'll be able to
submit your sightings directly to the site. Don't quote me on this but
I've heard that confirmed ID's won't be necessary to submit a new
record. It may be as simple as submitting a photo with the location,
date and name of the person that made the sighting under the heading of
"moth" or "butterfly"and they'll take it from there.
Posts sent to this list are mainly for county FOY (first of the year)
sightings, ID help and the general sharing of Moth related information.
If you are confident of an ID, a photo isn't necessary for reporting a
FOY sighting. There were some problems last month with our group using
up too much bandwidth with attached photographs. Our allotted space was
filled up early in the month so posts stopped being saved to the
archives. Freelists is working on the problem but for now, try to use a
hosting site for your photos like Photobucket or Flickr and then send
links in your posts.
Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County
http://www.finishflagfarms.com <http://www.finishflagfarms.com/>
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From: J.N. & Ella Howard <birders3@xxxxxxxxx>
To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 9:35:41 AM
Subject: [tn-moths] Re: FOYs Washington County
Larry,
Jean Obrist has told me that you are the moderator of the Tn. Moth
group so I need to ask a couple of questions and hope they are too much
trouble. First, when I observe a moth is it good just to report that to
the group as a whole so that it may be recorded for Marion County.
Second, I imagine it is best to send a photograph, but are they being
kept on file? Third, can I find out who else in Marion County is
observing and which species are already recorded? I am new to the group
and, although I have been enjoying keeping my own records for a few
years, I want to do it more effectively and am trying to take photos,
etc. I hope you can respond without it being a lot of trouble. All the
best to you.
J. N. Howard
Fiery Gizzard Cove
Marion County
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Larry McDaniel <larrycmcd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Adela ridingsella - Hodges#0228 (Adela ridingsella)
<http://bugguide.net/node/view/26748>
Grape Leaffolder - Hodges#5159 (Desmia funeralis)
<http://bugguide.net/node/view/3967>
Grapevine Looper - Hodges#7196 (Eulithis sp.)
<http://bugguide.net/node/view/52922>
Came to my porch light in Johnson City, TN on 6-5-10.
0228 was a first for me. Check out the antennas on the attached photo.
5159 ID based on 28 mm wingspan.
7196 I can't be sure of species.
My photos of these can be seen at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27634081@N06/
Larry McDaniel
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