Great! Thanks Julius. I hoped I had it figured out, but since this is the first one I have seen ( a Lifer for me) I wanted to make sure. Richard C In a message dated 6/16/2010 6:24:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, juliusbasham@xxxxxxxxx writes: Richard, Very nice photos of a female Yehl. The ventral shot shows the 3 nice whitish ovals, usually indicative of a female Yehl. (the males often have yellow ovals) In the blank space, where you would expect there to be a 4th white oval spot, is a broad ,yellowy, golden ray that extends from the outer edge, and heads towards the wingroot, making it about halfway through the hindwing. (On your particular gal, it's mainly imaginary) The dorsal male Yehl shows a very obvious black stigma, but the dorsal female Yehl, and the dorsal Mr. and Mrs. Broad-wingeds, have very similar markings, and can be quite troublesome. The similar three, from above, show almost identical yellow orange markings on the dorsal hindwing, but the dorsal forewing can give a few clues. The male Broad-winged usually shows all yellow orange markings, on the dorsal forewing. (including the 2-3 wrist bracelet marks)