I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed Mr Brooks' argument that "we don't harvest game". Says who (other than the Johnson City Press)? If an agency creates & manages habitat for game animals and subsequently sets hunting seasons and bag limits for said animals, why would the take of such animals NOT be considered a harvest? It is not that "TWRA and other hunter groups are trying to convince us" that it is a harvest - it IS a harvest. Unfortunately, many in the media are "trying to convince us" that modern-day legalized hunting is merely the evil pursuit of sadistic "killers" - therefore they ban the word "harvest" and replace it with "kill" in all their reporting. I find the ultimate irony in Mr Brooks' piece to be that a hunter is a "killer" but an ornithologist is a "collector". If a hunter and an ornithologist go afield together and each take a quail (bad example, I know) with a gun, why is it that the hunter "killed" his with some "high-powered weapon", but the ornithologist "collected" his with his "fowling piece"? It would seem to me that the ornithologist who "ends up eating the remains of his specimen after skinning it" (as is usually done; or so claimed) is as much a "killer" as he is a "collector". Seems to be a matter of perspective. What about those that sit at their kitchen window watching a bird feeder while enjoying a good cheeseburger? I suppose if said birdwatcher slaughters his own cattle and grinds it into burger he is a "killer" - but if he buys his burger presumably the Johnson City Press refers to him as a "hired killer". Don't be fooled into thinking the Johnson City Press selectively changes the word "harvest" to "kill" as a matter of style. It is being changed as a matter of prejudice. Now, about that Harpy Eagle stew - when can we go "collecting"....... Respectfully, Kelly Roy Knoxville TN -------------- Original message from jameswbrooks@xxxxxxxxxxx: -------------- > Someone used this euphemism in the discussion of what various birds taste > like. TWRA and other hunter groups are trying to convince us that we > "harvest" game. I think that's so mom will let dad take her 10-year-old out > with a high-powered rifle to kill a deer, when he's really at the age when he > should be hunting > rabbits with a .22. ( or bank fishing, or birding with binoculars). > As a style matter on the outdoors page of the Johnson City Press, any mention > of "harvest" that doesn't apply to grain is changed to "kill". When the news > department used to write the obituaries, people "died", they did not pass > away > or go to sleep with Jesus like they do now that obits are paid ads. > Ornithologists who have collected specimens usually end up eating the remains > after skinning what they have taken with their fowling piece. > Nothing quite like a bowl of Harpy Eagle stew to go with your study skin, or > so I've been told. With video and other technology I wonder if field > ornithologists > still collect specimens? > > Arturo Kirkconnell , author of the Cuban Field Guide, took me into the > specimen > room at Museo Nacional de Historia Natural in Havana to show me his > Gundlach's > Hawk specimen, since we didn't find a live one at Playa Larga . Appropriately > they are all kept in cigar boxes in Havana. But the GH skin was gone, stolen. > The Museo cannot afford security when they can only afford to pay their > curator > $27 a month. > > Sorry to wander. 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