Also, of interest, is the fact that sandhills in the central flyway are not known to mix with sandhill cranes in the Atlantic and Mississippi flyways, giving an interesting twist to the idea that this hooded crane may be the same individual that was seen in either Nebraska or Idaho. Vickie Henderson Knoxville, TN Knox County In a message dated 12/14/2011 1:58:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, birder1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: This will be interesting. The Siberian route is very plausible for the more northerly breeding Common Crane which isn't seperated by that much from the Siberian population of Sandhills that mostly winter in NA, less plausible to me for the more southern Hooded. Mike Todd McKenzie, TN birder1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx _www.pbase.com/mctodd_ (http://www.pbase.com/mctodd) ____________________________________ From: Chris Sloan <csloan1973@xxxxxxxxx> To: Viclcsw@xxxxxxx Cc: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, December 14, 2011 11:48:14 AM Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Hooded Crane at Hiwassee Wildlife Refuge I haven't been able to find anything on Idaho's decision. Generally, with Common Cranes, the theory is that they cross over from Siberia, like other Asian birds sometimes do, and then get mixed in with a Sandhill flock and just stay with them. Chris Sloan Nashville, TN _http://www.chrissloanphotography.com_ (http://www.chrissloanphotography.com/) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:45 AM, <_Viclcsw@xxxxxxxx (mailto:Viclcsw@xxxxxxx) > wrote: Was there any previous conclusion in Idaho about how a wild Asian crane could appear in North America? Vickie Henderson Knoxville, TN In a message dated 12/14/2011 12:10:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _csloan1973@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:csloan1973@xxxxxxxxx) writes: Scott is tied up but has looked at the pics and forwarded them to me. It's definitely a Hooded Crane. This will be an interesting debate as to its origins. There is only one previous report from the ABA area, of one in Carey, Idaho in April 2010. So far as I can tell, ABA checklist committee has not acted on it and I cannot tell what, if anything, Idaho was done. Captive birds are typically leg banded and the Idaho bird was not. There is also some chance that this bird at Hiwassee is the same bird. Chris Sloan Nashville, TN _http://www.chrissloanphotography.com_ (http://www.chrissloanphotography.com/) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Charles Murray <_dro_1945@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dro_1945@xxxxxxxxx) > wrote: Yesterday, Marie Sutton and Phyllis Deal from Lexington, KY spotted a strange crane at the Hiwassee Wildlife Refuge from the gazebo in Meigs Co. I arrived on the scene and called Jen Davis, ICF crane tracker. She arrived, took some digiscope photos and took the following notes on the 'mystery bird.' Crane Description: Smaller than a Sandhill. A shorter beak than the Canadian Sandhills on the HWR. Makes a higher pitched call, and is not the same sound. Black body with long tertial feathers. White Neck. Red cap. Black around the eyes. Jen contacted Bryant Tarr, crane curator at ICF. He believes the crane is a hooded crane. Jen has sent this description and some photos to Scott Somershoe. Charles Murray Birchwood, TN