[THIN] Re: WYSE vs. NeoWare

We just got done evaluating the Wyse 1200LE against the Neoware Capio One
multi-session. We liked the Wyse unit a lot better. I don't know that it was
an apples to apples comparison as the Wyse unit was running their Blazer OS
and the Capio was running Linux. But for our needs Blazer was awesome. .5MB
flash that can be re-imaged in seconds. The FTP management (an option for
both the Neoware and Wyse devices) is a plus, not a negative in our opinion.

The big difference between the two that led us to favoring Wyse:
 - .5MB Flash vs 16MB - much easier to re-image a device with .5mb flash
even over some of our slower (128K ISDN) WAN links.
 - Wyse was very customizable - logon screen, wallpaper, etc
 - Boot up time - 1200LE boots and is ready for logon in 6 seconds, Capio
one about 63 seconds.
 - We got 3 Neoware and 3 Wyse units to eval, one of the Neoware's was
defective.
 - Management software, wasn't a fair comparison in all honesty because we
have used Rapport for the past 1.5 years, but did like it better. Both
worked, but I found ezRemote manager to be somewhat clunky. In my opinion
they focused more on making it look nice than they did on functionality. In
fairness, we had issues with Rapport when we first started with it, but has
been very stable and worked great for us thus far.

Now - keep in mind it all depends on what you are looking for. For us, we
wanted the thinnest thin-client we could get. We already have 400+ XP
embedded devices that are what I would call semi-thin.

-Mike MacDonald

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Lich, Brian M
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:21 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: WYSE vs. NeoWare

Thanks for all of the great responses!  I really appreciate it.

I know that the WYSE terminals require an FTP server to manage and lock down
the clients.  Is it similar with NeoWare or is done a different way?  I'm
going to call and get some eval units.

Thanks again...
Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Greg Reese
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:19 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: WYSE vs. NeoWare

i'll second the slow boot times.  We just left ours on all the time
with the energy saver set to ten minutes.

One thing on the Neoware units that we liked is that they took a
normal power cord.  No fooling with power bricks or anything like
that.  It was maddening with Wyse to trouble shoot the terminal, then
troubleshoot the power brick and swap one from a working unit to
another unit etc, etc.

You can also use the ezremote manager software and they will update
and configure themselves.  We would have new units drop shipped to our
remote locations and the users would just plug them in, turn them on,
and they would auto-configure, reboot, and go directly to the login
screen.  this ability was not an extra cost with Neoware.  the
software is a free download and the terminals are configured at the
factory to work with it if it is there.


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:31:27 +1100, Nick Crisp
<ncrisp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I went with neoware after attempting to trial wyse... The trial winterm
> arrived in lockdown mode and so after some fiddling and head scratching I
> finally figured this out and sent it back and requested a replacement.
While
> waiting on a replacement winterm I trialled a capio from neoware and
> everything was nice and easy, so I placed the order. Then about two months
> later Wyse rang up and told me my trial machine was well overdue... I
> enjoyed sending them proof of delivery and explaining that they still
hadnt
> sent me a replacement trial machine and I had since gone with Neoware.
> Unfortunately though after the implemantation complaints came from users
> that the screen refresh rates on the capios were slow when compared to the
> old celeron 600s runing RDP on Win2k that they were replacing. (only a
> problem for counter staff)
> They are also a bit slower to boot than winterms
> But management was a breeze
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of Greg Reese
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2005 7:39 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: WYSE vs. NeoWare
> 
> my company ran Wyse for several years and had nothing but problems.
> We finally bit the bullet and tosssed them all in favor of Neoware.
> They have been great.  The support has been good to.  The biggest factor
in
> choosing a thin client is the management software.  If you don't have good
> software to manage and deploy the units, then you will be wasting your
time.
> Neoware has good management tools and they are compatible with third party
> tools like Altiris.  Wyse has some different things,  I really don't know
> too much about it these days but I am sure someone on this list can share
> their experience.
> 
> Both companies will send you a demo unit and provide support to check them
> out.  I recommend you put them head to head and see which one comes out on
> top for you.
> 
> Greg
> 
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:35:22 -0500, Lich, Brian M <blich@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > I am new to Citrix and the whole thin client world.  My organization
> > is looking at deploying a patient management system via Citrix.  The
> > app is in pilot now and performing very well in the Citrix farm.
> >
> > Now that the application is going, I've been asked to purchase some
> > thin clients.  I was looking at either a WYSE client or NeoWare.  The
> > problem that I have with WYSE is that it communicates via an FTP
> > server, which in my organization is frowned upon.  So, I started to
> > look into a NeoWare solution.
> >
> > What are you thoughts on both of these products (or any other thin
> clients)?
> > The ability to lock down the systems so that not just any user can
> > change the settings is important.  The ability to remotely upgrade the
> > firmware would be nice.  I think that both of the clients mentioned
> > above can do this.  However, I cannot use FTP as the means of
> communication.
> >
> > How does NeoWare handle the remote firmware updating and security
> settings?
> >
> > Thanks in advance...
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
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