Well, we use plain jane Terminal Services here, AND I have a VPN connection available to me via cable modem from home. You know what I do? I VPN in and then RDP into a box here to work on stuff remotely. Even with a cable VPN, it's just WAY faster to do the work and leave all the data local, not to mention more secure (what if someone steals my laptop??). VPN's are NOT the end-all-be-all. They're nice, much faster than dialing in via RAS, but still no where near LAN speeds (like you can get via TS or Citrix)... Then, there's the security, and the additional administrative overhead, and the..... You get the idea. I think your CIO must've hit her head... -----Original Message----- From: PETERSON, DAVID [mailto:DPETERSO@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 9:15 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Request for comments on VPN replacing Citrix We recently had an IT strategy meeting at our local Microsoft office and our CIO announced that she envisions getting rid of Citrix and replacing it with a VPN connection, possibly next year. I'd like to get some general thoughts on how workable this is and if it is really a viable replacement. I've come up with a list of items that I don't think a VPN will do that Citrix can, but wanted input from the list. A bit on our environment: We are a law firm with 7 offices in 4 states. All the offices are on our network, so they don't use Citrix in the office. Citrix is primarily used for remote use, either at home or on the road. We also sometimes have a trial site that uses Citrix to connect to the office. I still have users either on dialup Internet access or directly dial into Citrix. All of our main apps are available from Citrix, including Office, our Document Management System, Time and Billing etc. I can see some of it replaced by web pieces, like OWA when we go to Exchange 2003 but doubt it all would (Word for example). She's not even talking about using WI, but getting rid of Citrix all together. Is a VPN a real replacement? How would it work if a user needed to use an app like Word and didn't have it on their local system? How usable is it in a dialup speed environment? Any comments would be appreciated. For what its worth, all the Network Engineers and even the IT Director think she's a bit off on this. I thought I'd have to resuscitate our VOIP tech when she talked about getting rid of Call Manager. Some of us think she drank too much of the Microsoft Kool-Aid, but I need to start thinking about if this is really possible and if it is, be able to have a different role than a Citrix admin that has nothing to administer. Thanks NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission from the law firm of Dinsmore & Shohl may constitute an attorney-client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address record can be corrected. ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online Thinssentials Utilities Using the latest software, hardware, networking technologies, proven technical expertise, proprietary software and best practices, EOL provides custom-tailored solutions for each client's mission and specific goals. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online Thinssentials Utilities Using the latest software, hardware, networking technologies, proven technical expertise, proprietary software and best practices, EOL provides custom-tailored solutions for each client?s mission and specific goals. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm