So if I understand correctly, you'd be removing Citrix and replacing with VPNs for remote/off-site users, ro trial offices only? None of your existing facilities even use Citrix and would be effected? And then you want to have someone on a 56k (or maybe less?) dialup, VPN into your network and expect them to launch MS Word or some other thick application? Forget it. Someone needs to go over the CIO's head. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of PETERSON, DAVID Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 9:15 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Request for comments on VPN replacing Citrix We recently had an IT strategy meeting at our local Microsoft office and our CIO announced that she envisions getting rid of Citrix and replacing it with a VPN connection, possibly next year. I'd like to get some general thoughts on how workable this is and if it is really a viable replacement. I've come up with a list of items that I don't think a VPN will do that Citrix can, but wanted input from the list. A bit on our environment: We are a law firm with 7 offices in 4 states. All the offices are on our network, so they don't use Citrix in the office. Citrix is primarily used for remote use, either at home or on the road. We also sometimes have a trial site that uses Citrix to connect to the office. I still have users either on dialup Internet access or directly dial into Citrix. All of our main apps are available from Citrix, including Office, our Document Management System, Time and Billing etc. I can see some of it replaced by web pieces, like OWA when we go to Exchange 2003 but doubt it all would (Word for example). She's not even talking about using WI, but getting rid of Citrix all together. Is a VPN a real replacement? How would it work if a user needed to use an app like Word and didn't have it on their local system? How usable is it in a dialup speed environment? Any comments would be appreciated. For what its worth, all the Network Engineers and even the IT Director think she's a bit off on this. I thought I'd have to resuscitate our VOIP tech when she talked about getting rid of Call Manager. Some of us think she drank too much of the Microsoft Kool-Aid, but I need to start thinking about if this is really possible and if it is, be able to have a different role than a Citrix admin that has nothing to administer. Thanks NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission from the law firm of Dinsmore & Shohl may constitute an attorney-client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address record can be corrected. ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online Thinssentials Utilities Using the latest software, hardware, networking technologies, proven technical expertise, proprietary software and best practices, EOL provides custom-tailored solutions for each client's mission and specific goals. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online Thinssentials Utilities Using the latest software, hardware, networking technologies, proven technical expertise, proprietary software and best practices, EOL provides custom-tailored solutions for each client?s mission and specific goals. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm