[THIN] Re: Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search

  • From: "Evan Mann" <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:13:05 -0500

The options for Lookout have sections where you can define it to only
index between certain hours.  These settings are user specific and held
in the .XML config file located in Local Settings\App Data\Lookout
Software\Lookout\Options.Outlook.xml

 

I'm curious are you seeing huge performance hit during the fast and slow
index or just one or the other?  

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nick Smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:54 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search
Sensitivity: Private

 

OK, serves me right for being a smartass. The correct smartass comment
would have been 'Index at the Exchange End, and then have a front end
which natively accesses the Exchange End index and provides useful
results in an intelligible manner'.

 

Less pithy, though.

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Daniel Sidler
Sent: 10 December 2008 15:50
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search
Sensitivity: Private

 

Exchange DOES index on the database:

 

http://www.exchangeninjas.com/ExchangeSearchFAQ
<http://www.exchangeninjas.com/ExchangeSearchFAQ> 

http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2006/10/11/429163.aspx
<http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2006/10/11/429163.aspx> 

 

Regards,

Dan

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nick Smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:58 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search

Persuade MS to index at the Exchange end, where it should happen?

 

J

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of IT Support
Sent: 10 December 2008 07:46
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search

 

 

 

 Hi All,

Thanks for your tips - i've installed Lookout on a Citrix 4.5 box for
testing and it is working fairly good, but performance takes a huge hit
when the index is running.

Does anyone have any tips / best practices?

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Evan Mann
Sent: 05 December 2008 16:02
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search

 

To report on my links below. I installed Lookout 1.3.0 with Outlook
closed.  I then copied in the modified lookout.dll and
Inventures_Olk.dll into the install directory and overwrote the
originals. I opened up Outlook and the Lookout wizard opened.  Lookout
is currently indexing right now.. There were various blog replies about
people having issues on XP and Vista, but not others, but all looks well
for me thus far.


It founds my PST's and additional mailboxes. I am using Outlook 2007 SP1
on XP SP3.  I don't have any extra Add-ins installed into Outlook except
for whatever McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8.5i installed.


if this works as advertised (won't know 100% until indexing is done), I
will be a very happy person, and will say bye-bye to WDS!

 

 

 

 

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Evan Mann
Sent: 05 December 2008 15:37
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search

 

Download link for Lookout 1.3.0 (was the last release);

 

http://majorgeeks.com/Lookout_d4808.html

 

In my searching, I just found the following article on getting Lookout
to work in Outlook 2007

 

http://www.belshe.com/2007/12/06/how-to-install-lookout-on-outlook-2007/

 

And looking into the November 2008 replies, the following updated
method:

 

http://www.wirwar.com/blog/2008/01/22/search-e-mail-at-lightspeed-using-
lookout-with-outlook-2007/

 

There's various other links, methods, patches, etc., but people seem to
be pretty  gungho on keeping Lookout search working in Outlook 2007.  I
think I'm going to uninstall WDS and go back to Lookout using these
methods.

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Harry Singh
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 10:10 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search

 

Great Feedback Evan.

I actually used Copernic Desktop Search for outlook, but their recent
upgrade has actually regressed some functionality and it's actually not
even tolerable at this point.

where can i get lookout ? as i'm currently running outlook 2k3.

I've heard that one needs to be wary of the desktop search engines when
it comes to outlook connecting to an Exchange box as it could possible
lead to unnecessary overhead on the server side..

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I was an avid user of Lookout Search under Outlook 2003, simply the best
thing out there.  Small, lean, QUICK. When I upgraded to Office 2007 I
was stuck in that Lookout doesn't work.  Since MS purchased Lookout
Software, I figured the search capabilities of WDS combined with Outlook
2007 would be just as good.  So I broke down and installed WDS and
configured it to index nothing but Outlook (slows down my computer too
much for file system indexing).

 

Verdict?  Not as good as Lookout.  Nowhere near as fast to pull up
search results, WAY more intensive overhead on the system.  That being
said, it's VASTLY superior to using the built in Outlook 2007 search
without WDS. 

 

I haven't looked into any other options.   I believe the MSN toolbar has
integrated search capabilities that are supposed to work with Outlook,
but I have always assumed it would be exactly the same as if you had WDS
installed.  Maybe not?    I'm disappointed that MS screwed the pooch on
integrating Lookout search technology in the way they did.  They should
have simply integrated Lookout into Outlook 2007 and not required WDS.

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of IT Support
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:45 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search

 

Hello List,

 

What solutions do you use for Outlook 2007 Instant Search? Have any of
you tried installed WDS (Windows Desktop Search) ?

 

System is Citrix Presentation Server 4.5, Office 2007 sp1.

 

We are having a torrid time getting anything working - turns out our
users like to search lots!

 

Tia.

 

Jaime.

 

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