[THIN] Re: OT: VMWare backups
- From: "Stefan Timmermans" <stefan.timmermans@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:28:17 +0200
Joe,
Indeed, thats why I do not snapshot the files system if db's (ao) or db
disks are involved, then I still use the combination of snapshotting the
OS & applications , the datafiles of the application are not
snapshotted. But you are right, Microsoft Hyper V and
XenServer too, will quiesce the OS and applications, which makes the
solution all the more flexible !
Regards,
Stefan
2008/10/8 Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
> The only problem with this method is it does not quiesce the OS and it's
> applications before taking the snapshot. However, now with Hyper-V
> Microsoft has VSS support from the Parent Partition down the Application
> Level inside the Virtual Machine.
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> Joe
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Stefan Timmermans
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:41 PM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: VMWare backups
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> Another alternative is to create a REDO log using the esx shell command
> (vmkfstools & vmware-cmd on ESX2.5.X) , make an tradional tapebackup of the
> vmdk
>
> on the ESX host, you can choose between veritas netbackup, TSM (Tivoli
> storage manager) or even other file backup systems (see on the Vmware
> compatibility list) if you open the firewal with esxcfg (on ESX3) , and
> after the backup commit your redo (log) file to the main vmdk file. You
> don't need any special license or program , just use what ESX offers you !
> Never had any incident in 3 years doing so and even had one planned disaster
> recovery exercise on this completed succesfully.
>
> Ususally I do it as follows: the C:\ or system drive is done like I
> explained to quickly recover your OS and applications. for data recovery you
> choose
>
> for backups inside the Virtual machine like there are SQLbackupagents,
> Notesbackupagents , ....
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> Regards,
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> Stefan
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> 2008/10/8 <jstrowe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Esxpress is a good product. We just had to do a server restore from a
> corrupted database and the incrementals worked just fine to roll us back 4
> days.
>
> The best method of backup is a combination, i.e. traditional agent inside
> the virtual machine and a product like esxpress to grab the vmdk files et al
> at the linux level.
>
> Both methods provide a pretty decent level of coverage.
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> Msg: #3 in digest
> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:18:05 -0400
> From: Tom Diroff <tdiroff@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: VMWare backups
>
> Hi
> We use Esxpress ( esxpress.com) and have been pretty happy with it.
>
> Good Luck
>
> Tom Diroff
> University of Michigan
>
> Steve Snyder wrote: so how are ya'll backing up your virtuals? Right now
> we're backing up each virtual at their OS level, looking a vRanger to do a
> back-end snapshot backup. Of course BUE 12.5 was just released which is
> supposed to support vmware (and hyper-v) too.
>
>
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