[THIN] Re: OT: Security response to BAGLE virus (passwordprotected .zips)

  • From: "Wakelin, Frank" <fwakelin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 16:42:03 -0800

Actually our NAI product is detecting the password protected ZIPs =
themselves as viruses.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Evan Mann
Sent: March 4, 2004 2:11 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Security response to BAGLE virus
(passwordprotected .zips)


Woops!  I read as MailEssentials not MailSecurity, which is why I didn't
see the feature!=3D20

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Smith [mailto:nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, 5 March 2004 9:21 a.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Security response to BAGLE virus
(passwordprotected .zips)


Ummmm...it's under the Decompression Engine Settings  in my version 8.0
Nick -----Original Message-----
From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
Sent: 04 March 2004 16:26
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Security response to BAGLE virus
(passwordprotected .zips)

How does it decompress it without the password?  Are they running a
cracking program to get the password so it can scan the archive?

I am using MailSecurity at another office and see nothing in settings
about this feature.  Is it just something they say it does?=3D3D3D20

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Stephen Herrera
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:12 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Security response to BAGLE virus
(passwordprotected .zips)

GFI MailSecurity's decompression engine checks password protected =3D
=3D3D3D3D
archives.

steve

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D3D20
Sent:   Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:22 AM
To:     thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:        [THIN] Re: OT:  Security response to BAGLE virus =3D3D3D3D
(passwordprotected .zips)

Blocking the specific filename attachments that Bagle and it's variants
use.  These are documented by SARC and others.  This lets me accepts
legit .ZIPs but not the virus.  This is a short term option as I expect,
very soon, a variant (or new virus) that randomly generates encrypted
.ZIPs.=3D3D3D3D3D20

Some people on Focus-VIRUS mailing list are blocking attachment under a
certain size.  Others block .ZIP entirely.  The only methods are
filtering methods.  No AV scanning products can pick up the virus itself
inside a password protected ZIP.  The AV companies need to come up with
something quick! =3D3D3D3D3D20



-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Andrew Rogers
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:02 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Security response to BAGLE virus
(passwordprotected .zips)

We've got Clearswifts Mailsweeper here, and have blocked (well, ok,
mailswe=3D3D3D3D3D3D eper distribute lists) all the phrases that the =
worms =3D
=3D3D
=3D3D3D use.
We've also got s=3D3D3D3D3D3D ize limits set on the attachments, so we =
can =3D
=3D3D
=3D3D3D stop =3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D all attachments of type =
x=3D3D3D3D3D3D  under =3D
size y!

Andrew
--o--

>>> BClaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 04/03/04 13:28:12 >>>
Just wondering what others are doing to combat the latest BAGLE worm.
=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D It's password protected so standard AV won't scan into =
it.
=3D3D =3D3D3D How =3D3D3D3D is =3D3D3D3D3D3D3D everyone else handling =
delivery =3D
of .zip
files =3D3D now?

We're using the Trend Micro AV suite.

Do you think the latest password protected BAGLE worm has caused the =3D
=3D3D3D
=3D3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D3D3D demise of password protected .zip files?

My immediate opinion in the matter is that password protected .zip files
=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D will now be treated with the same delivery restrictions =
=3D
that
=3D3D =3D3D3D the .exe, =3D3D3D3D3D3D3D .scr, .pif, .vbs have come under =
but =3D
I'm not
aware of =3D3D3D any =3D3D3D3D AV software or =3D3D3D3D3D3D3D other =
means to
differentiate scanning =3D3D3D options =3D3D3D3D between p\w protected =
.zip
=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D files =3D3D and non p\w protected .zip files.


Thanks,
=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D20

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Network Administrator
WESCO Distribution, Inc.
225 West Station Square Drive, Suite 700 Pittsburgh, PA 15219-1122
Phone:  412-454-2412
Fax:  412-454-2540
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