[THIN] Re: OT: HHHHEEEEELLLPPP!! "Unknown Hard Error"

  • From: "BRUTON, Malcolm, FM" <Malcolm.BRUTON@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:23:45 +0100

Yes I have seen this.  Was a bloody nightmare.

I assume you are doing a scripted install of windows.  There is an updated
ntfs.sys contained in one of those hotfixes for SP4 that screws things.  I
believe you only see this if you have done a resize of the NTFS partition
during the scripted install using the SP4 media and then update hotfixes.  

MS have released a post hotfix hotfix that fixes it.  Can't remember exactly
what hotfix this is in but do a search for updated ntfs.sys.  

Also I think this shows that you should only use hotfixes when you have an
explicit problem.  Downloading unknown hotfixes form a web site without
testing thoroughly is asking for trouble.

Took us a few weeks to find.

Malcolm

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Sent: 13 April 2004 19:21
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Subject: [THIN] OT: HHHHEEEEELLLPPP!! "Unknown Hard Error"

Has anyone seen this error message?  We hae 3, yes, read it correctly.  3
Proliant DL380-G2 servers that have this problem.  The problem is happening
within a Windows 2000 Server with Service Pack 4 (including all 118 hotfixes
provided at http://www.pubforum.net).  The Rom firmware is as follows:

System BIOS:  P24 (11/15/2002) - Most current version
SA5i Firmware:  v2.58 (most current) on two servers AND v1.92 on another
server
SA5i Driver: v5.49.2.32

The "Unknown hard error" only appears when we are installing apps, or when
huge disk activity occurs.  I *think* this is caused by the driver, as this
is the only common thing with the 3 servers.  I have verified that the
drives firmware is at the latest version.

Has anyone seen this before?  Does anyone have ANY suggestions?  I'm at a
complete lose!!!!

I do have a case open with Compaq/HP, but they are just as stupped!

Thanks,

Chris

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