[THIN] Re: MS Licensing of Office
- From: "Roger Riggins" <Roger@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 21:40:07 -0500
The licenses should be backward-compatible. If you purchase an Office XP
license, you may run an earlier version of Office and be legit. This
applies for OS'es as well.=20
Roger
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From: adam morley [mailto:adam-thin@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:41 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Licensing of Office
It seems to me that they only need 15:
"The Office EULA requires you to acquire and dedicate a license for each
Windows-based terminal (or any other device) on which Office will run,
or from which Office will be accessed. 'Acquire and dedicate' means you
will need to obtain a license for each device that is to run Office on a
recurring basis."
You just have to say that 15 of the terminals are "office terminals."
"Dedicate a license for Office for every computer on which you plan to
use Office." where computer can =3D unix workstation, mac, Winterm, =
etc.
Scenario 1 helps:
"Scenario 1:
A customer has 50 Windows-based workstation devices in a call center and
would like to use Office XP on all these workstations. Two terminal
servers support the 50 Windows-based workstations. The customer will
need to acquire 50 Office licenses?one for each computer that will run
Office. Even if a workstation is expected to run Office only
infrequently, the customer will still need to acquire and dedicate an
Office license for that workstation. If 20 of these workstation will
never run Office, then the customer will only need to acquire 30
licenses."
The last part is important. Note that I *believe* that licensing is
based off office XP, so 97pro might be a different licensing model ---
read the EULA and it might be different.
In the event you find out that you really need to buy 15 more licenses,
tell me where you get them, as I haven't figured out where to get office
97 pro licenses anymore. And then, if you can't, and are worried, you
could use OpenOffice, provided it can do what you need. Our excel users
can't use StarOffice/OpenOffice because it can't do some of the things
they need to do. But StarOffice/OpenOffice seem a lot like office 97
sometimes.
bb,
adam
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:53:16AM +0930, jay.jukes@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
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> This website sums it up pretty well. Licensing isn't on a per user
basis
> and is not concurrent. If you have 15 users and they use 30 different
> desktop devices, you will need 30 licenses.
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http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/licensoffic
e.asp
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> Cheers
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> I need some clarification on a specific issue we have with a client.
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> They have a NT4Terminal server with 30 users and will be upgrading to
=3D
> Win2k TSE. They only have a 15 user license for MS Office 97 which
they =3D
> are happy to keep using, the problem is Microsoft said that they MUST
=3D
> have 30 MS Office licenses because it is a Terminal Server and 30
people =3D
> have the potential to use it.
> My question is, if they only have 15 (or less) users that need MS
Office =3D
> do they really have to get 30 Office licenses ?
> If the 15 non Office users have no shortcuts to any MS Office =3D
> applications is this good enough to prove they do not use it ?
> We are very flustered by M$ attitude to Terminal server and licensing
of =3D
> MS Software on this platform. We have 30 W2k CALs and 30 TSE CALs,
but =3D
> getting 15 more Office CALs for people who will never use it seems to
be =3D
> a huge waste of money.
> I just want to here from others who may have been told the same as me
or =3D
> who have found a different story as I can get 2 different opinions
from =3D
> M$ about the same question.
> TIA
> Malcolm
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