[THIN] Re: Licensing Vista for VDI - Are you ready for VDI Maybe not

  • From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:31:40 -0700

Or better yet, get Windows Server 2003 Datacenter and you can host unlimited
VMs per Host.

 

Windows Server 2003 Standard is a 1 VM to 1 license per VM

Windows Server 2003 Enterprise is 4 VMs to 1 license per Host (includes Host
license if host is W2k3 Enterprise)

Windows Server 2003 DataCenter is unlimited VMs to 1 license per Host

 

In the case of DataCenter, you would downgrade to Enterprise for the
install.  

 

As far as 2003 vs XP\Vista.  It all depends on what your trying to
accomplish with VDI.  For the most part, traditional SBC is the way to go
but there are applications that just don't run on 2003.  Only XP and\or
Vista.   Also,  in the context of Citrix,  XenDesktop will provide a better
experience using XP\Vista than Presentation Server and 2003.  Even if
everyone has their own 2003 instance.

 

Joe

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Greg Reese
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:18 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Licensing Vista for VDI - Are you ready for VDI Maybe
not

 

in other words, they just want us to keep buying desktops from authorized
resellers like Dell and HP and keep sending them money on SA deals.

the only way to know you are correctly licensing Microsoft's products is to
figure out the absolute most expensive scenario possible.  That will be the
one that is compliant.

:^)


the ony way I can see to come out ahead is to virtualize with 2003
enterprise and run your five free windows 2003 standard virtually as
terminal servers.  Heck, you would almost be better off to VDI everyone
their own 2003 server rather than XP or Vista.

Greg



On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Jim Kenzig <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Wait as I thought about this XP is licensed per device it is installed on.
Theoretically if you used PC blades and used 1 copy on each blade you might
be compliant. There is no way you could do it with multiple users accessing
one VDI being licensed properly though with out buying VECD and downgrading.
Vista Business/Ultimate VECD is the only authorized MS OS license that lets
you virtualize to multiple users and multiple desktops at the same time as
far as I know. 

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What's the alternative?  Use a full blown license for each instance?   I
have customer who has extra XP licenses they wish to pool in this fashion.

 

Joe

 


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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:15 PM
To: THIN; virtualize
Subject: [THIN] Licensing Vista for VDI - Are you ready for VDI Maybe not

 

If you want to use Vista as a Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) heads up.
Did you know that only the Windows Vista Enterprise Centralized Desktop
(VECD) version of Vista can be used this way. Here is a document that has
the skinny.

 

http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/d/4/3d42bdc2-6725-4b29-b75a-a5b0417
9958b/licensing_vista_with_VM_technologies.docx

 

So as I understand it after you pay get the Hyper-V, Or Vmware VDI or Citrix
Desktop solution license and server hardware, you'll need to of course pay
for the local Windows Vista license the VECD one on the device so you can
run a vista VDI.  It gets very confusing. But the buttom line is if you
aren't running VECD when accessing Vista in a VDI you are violating
Microsofts licensing agreement. Hope you purchased the correct version. 

 

Are you confused now? I still am. But I always thought that the synonym for
Microsoft licensing is "Confusion". That is why we have VARs. LOL

-- 
Jim Kenzig 
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
Citrix Technology Professional
Blog: http://www.techblink.com <http://www.techblink.com/>  




-- 
Jim Kenzig 
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
Citrix Technology Professional
Blog: http://www.techblink.com 

 

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