That's not entirely true. It depends on what you are trying to achieve = with your portal solution. MSAM is just as stable as Web Interface and just as easy to setup and = maintain. I do how ever concur that there are better solutions out there for less = money. The most elegant one is from Novell (Novell Portal services) it = does everything that MSAM does but also includes things like workflow = management.=20 But if youre already a Citrix shop and and am wanting to extend the = capabilities with your citrix farm, and have no in house developer = skills then MSAM is probably the easiest and less complex solution. Tony Lyne Senior Systems Engineer=20 Computerland Central=20 P O Box 1470=20 PALMERSTON NORTH Telephone (+64) 06 3537300 Facsimile (+64) 06 3566800 Mobile (+64) 0274 720696 E-mail Tony.Lyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Internet http://www.computerland.co.nz CAUTION: This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain = information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are = not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, = dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is = prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me = immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Thank = you. =A0 -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Danilychev [mailto:teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Friday, 13 February 2004 5:44 p.m. To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Implementing SAM Hi, Unless you are planning to use SAM portal functionality, CSG with former = "NFuse" is a more stable, scalable and secure solution for MetaFrame = access. It is true that "out of the box" capabilities that SAM offers are=20 interesting, new software development kits/tools that target .NET or = JAVA=20 deployments provide inexpensive way to manage and maintain elaborate = portals=20 with NO per user/connection fee related to the portal itself. As = example, my=20 organization is discontinuing PlumTree in favor of in-house portal=20 technology. And, as you know, PlumTree (www.plumtree.com) was on a = high-end=20 as compared to SAM. One thing to consider is combining free portals like PostNuke=20 (http://www.postnuke.com) with NFuse (I know, they do not call it NFuse=20 anymore ;) and CSG. ALEX >From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [THIN] Re: Implementing SAM >Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:08:29 -0000 > >Tony, > >If you dont mind me asking , what sort of content were you delivering = via >msam ? > >regards > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tony Lyne" <Tony.Lyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:39 PM >Subject: [THIN] Re: Implementing SAM > > >MSAM should be installed on a dedicated server. On the internal = network. > >The CSG server should be installed obviously on one of your bastion =3D >hosts. Normally on a DMZ. > >I just finished a MSAM project for a client with 50-100 users = connecting =3D >and a 1u server with mirrored disks was all that was required for the = =3D >MSAM server.=3D20 > >They had an existing SQL server on the LAN so we made use of that for = =3D >the repository and other databases associated with MSAM. > > > >Tony Lyne >Senior Systems Engineer=3D20 >Computerland Central=3D20 >P O Box 1470=3D20 >PALMERSTON NORTH >Telephone (+64) 06 3537300 >Facsimile (+64) 06 3566800 >Mobile (+64) 0274 720696 >E-mail Tony.Lyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Internet http://www.computerland.co.nz >CAUTION: This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain =3D >information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are = =3D >not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, =3D >dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is =3D >prohibited. 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