[THIN] Re: How many servers?
- From: "Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:32:48 -0400
Right... there are some apps it does nothing for. You put it in caps, not
me :). I love TScale (not enough to pay to upgrade it, but enough to use
the ehck out of it on some of my boxes). But there are some apps it does
nothing for. For instance, an ActiveX app we run. I'm not saying I EXPECT
it to do anything. I'm saying that you have to evaluate your apps and make
sure it's going to help you. If all we ran was this type of app, it would
of course be a waste. As I'm sure Bernd would be the first to say.
-Paul
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> From: Ron Oglesby[SMTP:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:28 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: How many servers?
>
> Does "NOTHING" for. That is a big word... NOTHING. Lets see
> Softricity based applications are not optimized by TScale. Why? Simply
> because Softricity isolates the app from everything else to TSscale
> doesn't work with it (wont let is share with other sessions which would
> not help softricity at all) Bernd and I spoke of this some.
>
> Helps less with Office products...
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:52 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: How many servers?
>
> And there are some apps that TScale does absolutely nothing for. It's a
> matter of testing.
>
> -Paul
>
> > ----------
> > From: Brian Madden[SMTP:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Reply To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:23 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: How many servers?
> >
> > Keep in mind that TScale's effectiveness is largely dependent on the
> > applications.
> >
> > In my experience, TScale works best with the big stupid apps, like SAP,
> > Peoplesoft, Meditech, Oracle, etc, etc..
> >
> > If you're only using Office, TScale gives maybe a 5-10% advantage
> instead
> > of
> > 35%. (I'm sure there are some back-door shenanigans going on at MS where
> > their apps just "happen" to run more efficiently than other non-MS
> apps..
> > which is why TScale doesn't work as well with them.)
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Brian Madden
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> > brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Matt Kosht
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:28 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: How many servers?
> >
> > Take a look at Tscale (http://www.rtosoft.com). It will pay for itself
> and
> > then some by increasing your servers user capacity. In my experience
> > about
> > 35% more capacity or getting 4 server capacity with only 3 servers is my
> > rule of thumb. If you are estimating 7 servers you could get by with as
> > few
> > as 5.
> >
> > A nice bonus is some apps will run noticeably faster.
> >
> >
> >
> > >>> Miguel-Guzman@xxxxxxx 9/24/2003 10:52:14 AM >>>
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > Currently I am running 17 Win NT TSE servers w/2GB or RAM; these servers
> > will go to their knees when they get to the 40 user count.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been told to get us NEW servers so we all finally agreed to
> > purchase
> > ProLiant BL20p G2 X3.06-512 Dual Processor Blade servers with 4GB of
> RAM.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am going through a brainstorm here trying to figure out how many
> servers
> > to ask for...
> >
> >
> >
> > The average user takes up form 24MB to 45MB of RAM per session; and we
> > would
> > like to be able to always have an off-line server or at least if one
> fails
> > to not decrease the users performance. So far I have counted 1 server
> for
> > CSG & NFuse, 1 server for STA, and 7 MetaFrame XP Win 2003 servers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Does this seem like a good amount?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Miguel Enrique Guzmán <mailto:Miguel-Guzman@xxxxxxx> CCA
> >
> > Network Analyst I
> >
> > (941) 917-7084
> >
> > Information Systems
> >
> > Sarasota Memorial Health Care System <http://www.smh.com/>
> >
> > (941) 917-9000
> >
> > Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it
> > holds the universe together.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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