Hehe....makes you wonder. We are still running thru testing of our problem child server bogging down - tonight we are dropping the switch & server to 100 fixed to eliminate any cause for the autogig being a culprit. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Angus Macdonald Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:04 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Delay when typing (now Auto-negotiate) All the Gig cards we have around here only offer Auto/1000. Maybe it's so fast we can't be trusted to set it up by hand. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Greenberg [mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 08 September 2004 15:27 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Delay when typing (now Auto-negotiate) Hi Ron, Ironically I just happen to come across that at a client site, I was recommending we set the values manually and it wouldn't let us! Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Jameson Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:39 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Delay when typing (now Auto-negotiate) Steve - have you run across the Dell PE servers with broadcom onboard NIC's - I have yet to get Dell/broadcom to make them change the driver to allow them to be set with fixed values. Only does Gig at auto. These are hard to diagnose network issues between server to switch. Ron -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 10:55 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Delay when typing (now Auto-negotiate) You would SCHOCKED if you know how often we find NIC speed/duplex mismatches in the field producing performance loss. I remember purchasing the very first Ethernet switch on the market and having this issue. It blows my mind that I come across it all the time to this day. Bottom line- never rely on auto-negotiated speed/duplex in critical applications.... Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Angus Macdonald Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 1:42 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Delay when typing We experienced this recently on our 100Mb LAN. It eventually proved to be because our Cisco switches don't autonegotiate the connection speed properly. One end seems to run at 100Mb and the other seems to run at 10Mb, resulting in huge packet loss. Enough data gets through to keep the ICA connection going but users can experience long delays. Forcing the LAN card and switch to 100Mb fixes the issue. Of course, I'm looking at doing that with 2000 machines. luckily I can delegate..... -----Original Message----- From: Tim Mangan [mailto:tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 02 September 2004 22:00 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Delay when typing See www.tmurgent.com\images\PerceivedPerformance.pdf for a detailed description on what's happening. Tim Mangan -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Berger, Gunnar Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:54 AM To: ThinNet (E-mail) Subject: [THIN] Delay when typing I'm looking for the fix to an old problem I had on my MetaFrame 1.8 Server. I still get it sometimes but what I'm really looking for is a white paper talking about this issue. When I have a user typing in their email or whatever they experience delay from when they hit the letters and when they see them. Sometimes they can be an entire line ahead of themself. Anyway, I just need some MS and Citrix whitepapers that go into detail. If you know where I can find them please share. Gunnar ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor triCerat: Have you had your fill of printing support calls, unauthorized apps running on unsecured Terminal Servers, profile headaches, and application performance problems? 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