[THIN] Re: Controlling Virtual Memory Usage

  • From: "Michel Roth" <mrdizzz@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:14:32 +0100

Angela,

Are your users located on a LAN or a WAN?

On 1/4/07, Angela Smith <angela_smith9@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Evan

I am having the same issues in regards to keystroke delays and
intermittent
hanging in sessions.  I have enabled Memory optimization to see if that
makes a difference.  Will keep you informed.  Failing this I will look at
Appsense

Ang


>From: Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Controlling Virtual Memory Usage
>Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 08:35:03 -0500
>
>Piggy backing onto the virtual memory usage.  I have very high virtual
>memory usage, even though I have 1 to 2 gigs of physical memory free.  I
>also have plenty of idle CPU but I have heavy complaints of a slow user
>experience, such as Outlook keystrokes not appearing as they are typed.
>
>I have plenty of bandwidth (10mbits upstream with only 3mbps used), and
>the users complaining have plenty of up/down bandwidth available.  Could
>high virtual memory and paging cause this type of performance problems,
>or would it be unrelated?
>
>________________________________
>
>From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Rick Mack
>Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 6:56 AM
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Controlling Virtual Memory Usage
>
>
>Hi Angela,
>
>Sounds like a Java app :-(
>
>Seriously, DLL remapping (memory optimization) probably won't give you a
>lot of value in your scenario, but it'd be worth trying. Sure there's
>the risk it will break something but it's dead easy to turn off without
>rebooting to check. And there's enough tweaking possible to have memory
>optimization and everything working as well.
>
>However a product like Appsense performance manager that also does
>memory working set trimming of backgrounded and idle processes will
>probably work much better in your scenario. Try the eval version, or
>better yet get your reseller to install an eval version and see how it
>goes. It's not cheap but it's also a lot less expensive than more
>servers.
>
>Considering that paging activity is likely to be the bottleneck
>regardless of the size of the pagfile(s), I'd suggest you stick with the
>configuration you've got and try memory optimization and Appsense first.
>It's possible to have multiple page files on separate partitions or even
>the same partition but it'd probably make things worse for you rather
>than better.
>
>regards,
>
>Rick
>
>Ulrich Mack
>Commander Australia
>
>
>On 1/3/07, Angela Smith <angela_smith9@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>       Hi
>
>       Almost all my Windows 2003 STD / Presentation Server 4 servers
>are running
>       out of Swap space.  Hardware config is:
>
>       Dual 3.6Ghz
>       4Gb RAM
>
>       Swap size is 4095 - 4095 and it resides on the C: Drive.  Main
>process which
>       is using most of the Swap is Internet Explorer.  Most of our
>Published apps
>       are browser based so I have numerous IEXPLORE.EXE processes
>eating all the
>       swap.  Alot of the IEXPLORE.EXE processes use between 150Mb -
>300Mb of VM.
>       Is there any way I can tweak the memory usage for IE to minimise
>the amount
>       of Swap being used?
>
>       We have not enabled memory optimization in Citrix farm
>properties as I read
>       it breaks certain applications? Is this the case?  Will enabling
>this assist
>       in this issue?
>
>       I was going to purchase extra servers to lighten the load but
>most other
>       resource indicators are OK.  I would prefer to tweak existing
>servers if
>       possible. We have between 80 - 100 sessions per server (40 - 50
>users per
>       box on average)
>
>       Any suggestions appreciated
>
>       Thanks
>       Angela
>
>
>

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