Here's a link for a podcast of the KNFB reader app. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1587669/KNFB%20reader.mp3 I got it from applevis and put it in my dropbox folder. I have to say, I'm impressed with what they've done with the app. The app is in the iTunes store now. Although I've blastedf the NFB on several things, I will give them credit when they do something worthwhile. Although the app costs $99.00 I'm really thinking about getting it. If I do, I'll let ya know what I think using it with the iPhone 5. The dude in the podcast had a 5s with iOS8. I won't always have the money to get the app so may have to decide to do it now. I purchased text cloner for my computer and wasn't as impressed with it as much as I was with KNFB reader. I encourage everyone to listen to the podcast. I have prismo and it never did as well as what the dude was doing with the KNFB reader app. Just saying.