Elliott, In a general sense, when filters were first set up, they focused on species-level entries. As more time has passed and more users are entering data into eBird, the subspecies entries do get worked on and improved; a lot of that is driven by the number of valid subspecies entries made in the submissions in a particular area. In the Austin area (okay, the Travis County filter is what you are asking about I'm assuming), both Audubon's Warblers and Harlan's Hawks are regular wintering birds. Their filters are set quite low to account for their small numbers but I don't consider either to be that unusual. As an example, I think I could probably point you to at least 5 different dark-morph Harlan's in the county this past winter. I know that Harlan's can be hard to ID for some but I don't get very many mis-ID's of it though I suspect a few of the easterly Zone-taileds that have been reported on the east side of the county where perhaps Harlan's. Outside of some visually distinctive subspecies (like the two above and a few others), the average eBirder might struggle describing the details behind his/her sub-specific identification. When I've asked in the past for details on some sub-specific identifications, I will get something akin to "this is the default in the area" with no compelling reason why the particular bird being seen was the default. In a species like Red-tailed Hawk where there are many intergrades and it seems like every individual looks a little different, I would prefer to require a bit of effort for someone to enter a subspecies identification. I have found that if someone is keen to identify and enter subspecies, they don't need a list of choices to help them decide. -- Eric Travis County reviewer and filter-setting person Eric Carpenter Austin On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Elliott Gordon <tengalloncat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > For my eBird submissions, I have checked the "show subspecies" box. This is > especially convenient for Yellow-rumped Warblers this time of year. But it > has led to some questions: > Why not set the Audubon's filter at 0 to encourage details, as they are > less expected in central (and east) Texas? > Why does Harlan's Red-tail show up automatically, but the Eastern filter is > set at 0? > > Those are just a few that bug me every time. It seems that, either the > expected subspecies should have non-zero filters or all subspecies should > be set at 0, rather than a select few. I realize the effort that goes into > maintaining filters, so some homogeneity necessary, but how much? Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner