[TechAssist] Re: charges for capacitors installed in a set
- From: Edward Gaidies <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:27:43 -0400
Inventory Count????
When I go to the drawer that holds my 10ufd/200V...and it's empty...I
order more.;-)
-Ed-
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Ed Gaidies
Tel-Tek Electronics
Ontario-Canada
teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
teltek@xxxxxxxxx
On 10-Oct-04, at 12:40 AM, Gary McCartney wrote:
> I just write on the invoice, 50 caps at $1.00 ea or whatever. I don't
> get into the uF or voltage rating of each cap. How do you guys handle
> your inventory count if you mark down "MOD KIT" or something else?
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> Gary McCartney
>
> McCartney Electronics
> Guelph Ontario Canada
> Est. 1984
> email: gary (at) number63.ca
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> Jay wrote:
>> If I have to itemize the parts list on the invoice then I have no
>> choice
>> but to raise the labor charges. Most want the repair done as cheap as
>> possible, and that means to me with the least effort possible. (-;
>> Jay Knoll
>> Jay's TV Service
>> www.circuitwork.com
>> Voice 304-624-6311
>> Fax 208-246-5422
>>
>> J Silverman wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah. But it takes so long to write up the parts list.
>>> Jerry Silverman
>>> Greentron Inc
>>> 4 Newland Ave
>>> Greenville SC 29609
>>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:17 PM
>>> Subject: [TechAssist] charges for capacitors installed in a set
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ed, that is interesting. Let's say you replace 50 caps in a
>>>> Mitsubishi.
>>>> How much would you charge for the so- called MOD KIT? Just wanting
>>>> to
>>>> know if that would be a big advantage over just charging for 50
>>>> caps.
>>>> I've been charging for the caps. Nobody has questioned it or
>>>> anything. I
>>>> charge a buck for the small ones, and go up mostly as the voltage
>>>> rating
>>>> increases to 3, 4 or higher bucks each.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gary McCartney
>>>>
>>>> McCartney Electronics
>>>> Guelph Ontario Canada
>>>> Est. 1984
>>>> email: gary (at) number63.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tel-Tek Electronics wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Same here Al...I never use the word "fuse" on my Invoice..that's
>>>>> all the
>>>>> customer focuses on.
>>>>> Some of my customers that are a little technically inclined, or
>>>>> presume they are, I don't even use words like resistors or
>>>>> capacitors.
>>>>> Like on the Mitsubishi's...if I change a bunch of Caps, I bill
>>>>> it out as a MOD KIT, and charge accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ed-
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>> Ontario-Canada
>>>>>
>>>>> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al L
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:36 AM
>>>>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>>>
>>>>> Since fuses and fuse ohms cost very little i NEVER put them on my
>>>>> bills!
>>>>> It
>>>>> also stops that old crap'ALL it needed was a fuse!". al
>>>>>
>>>>> Al Leatherman
>>>>> 224 RT. 46
>>>>> Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>> 973-361-5796
>>>>> WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:34 AM
>>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bingo! Give that man a cigar! As "sue-happy" as a lot of Americans
>>>>>
>>>>> have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> become, it is best to use the original part when it comes to
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> like this. When you turn on a tv and there is a lawyer saying "Has
>>>>>> anyone looked at you cross-eyed in the last 3 months? We'll sue
>>>>>> on a
>>>>>> percentage basis", Ed is VERY correct in saying that a lawyer
>>>>>> would
>>>>>
>>>>> drag
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> you through the coals on that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug Keller
>>>>>> Wis-Kel Electronics
>>>>>> 101 Freeland Ave.
>>>>>> Terra Alta, WV
>>>>>> USA 26764
>>>>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> http://www.tech-assist.org
>>>>>> "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>>>>>> won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Edward Gaidies wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jerry;
>>>>>>> I agree 100%.
>>>>>>> Cover yourself on "Safety Components"...
>>>>>>> Not being cruel...it's nice to ask if you don't know..but using
>>>>>>> improper fuses, or improper components will put your shieska on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not so much in Canada, but with Lawsuits, some hotshot
>>>>>>> Investigator
>>>>>>> will draw you through the coals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Ed-
>>>>>>> *****************************************************************
>>>>>>> Ed Gaidies
>>>>>>> Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>>> Ontario-Canada
>>>>>>> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8-Oct-04, at 3:47 PM, J Silverman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no relationship between fusible and flameproof. They
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> applications. Fusible has been selected to protect some circuit
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>>> damage. Flameproof is to prevent smoke and fire when damage
>>>>>>>> occurs.
>>>>>>>> Jerry Silverman
>>>>>>>> Greentron Inc
>>>>>>>> 4 Newland Ave
>>>>>>>> Greenville SC 29609
>>>>>>>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>>>>>>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Paul" <dntwntv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thats interesting, because I am working on a Samsung that came
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> vertical problem per the customer. Didn't show up in the shop
>>>>>>>> till I
>>>>>>>> tapped
>>>>>>>> the board. I resoldred all the i/c pins and other relative
>>>>>
>>>>> components.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still
>>>>>>>> no deflection. Hit the area with freeze and got partial
>>>>>>>> deflection
>>>>>>>> momentarily while a peaking coil smoked. I replaced the i/c the
>>>>>>>> coil
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> shorted zener and a lytic cap. The 5.6 ohm fusible opened also
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> didn't see till I fired it up again and had fold over. I
>>>>>>>> replaced
>>>>>
>>>>> with
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> flame proof. It smoked and opened up immediately. Found another
>>>>>>>> shorted
>>>>>>>> zener. Thus the reason for the question. A fusible didn't seem
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>> work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> better than a flame proof, at least in this case. Some
>>>>>>>> suppliers use
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> term fusible to mean flame proof.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>> J Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> No. A flame proof resistor is made of materials that wont burn
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> smoke
>>>>>>>>> excessively. That doesnt mean that it wont light up like a
>>>>>>>>> light
>>>>>
>>>>> bulb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the circuit it is supposed to protect vaporizes and the
>>>>>>>>> resistor
>>>>>>>>> survives.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> fusable resistor is supposed to protect something by
>>>>>>>>> interrupting
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> current.
>>>>>>>>> Jerry Silverman
>>>>>>>>> Greentron Inc
>>>>>>>>> 4 Newland Ave
>>>>>>>>> Greenville SC 29609
>>>>>>>>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>>>>>>>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Paul"
>>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:57 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Fusible resistors
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is a flame proof resistor a safe sub for a fusible resistor
>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> value?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If not why not?
>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Paul ,B
>>>>>>>>>> Central TV&Video
>>>>>>>>>> 911W Grand Ave
>>>>>>>>>> Grover Beach Ca.
>>>>>>>>>> (805)481-8084
>>>>>>>>>>
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