[TechAssist] Re: charges for capacitors installed in a set

  • From: larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:17:04 -0400

right Ed.
but if i remember i order  when i take out, next to the last one.
lol
Larry


Edward Gaidies wrote:
> Inventory Count????
> When I go to the drawer that holds my 10ufd/200V...and it's empty...I  
> order more.;-)
> 
> 
> -Ed-
> *****************************************************************
> Ed Gaidies    
> Tel-Tek Electronics
> Ontario-Canada
> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> teltek@xxxxxxxxx      
> 
> On 10-Oct-04, at 12:40 AM, Gary McCartney wrote:
> 
> 
>>I just write on the invoice, 50 caps at $1.00 ea or whatever. I don't
>>get into the uF or voltage rating of each cap. How do you guys handle
>>your inventory count if you mark down "MOD KIT" or something else?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Gary McCartney
>>
>>McCartney Electronics
>>Guelph Ontario Canada
>>Est. 1984
>>email: gary (at) number63.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Jay wrote:
>>
>>>If I have to itemize the parts list on the invoice then I have no  
>>>choice
>>>but to raise the labor charges. Most want the repair done as cheap as
>>>possible, and that means to me with the least effort possible. (-;
>>>Jay Knoll
>>>Jay's TV Service
>>>www.circuitwork.com
>>>Voice 304-624-6311
>>>Fax 208-246-5422
>>>
>>>J Silverman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yeah. But it takes so long to write up the parts list.
>>>>Jerry Silverman
>>>>Greentron Inc
>>>>4 Newland Ave
>>>>Greenville SC 29609
>>>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:17 PM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] charges for capacitors installed in a set
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ed, that is interesting. Let's say you replace 50 caps in a  
>>>>>Mitsubishi.
>>>>>How much would you charge for the so- called MOD KIT? Just wanting  
>>>>>to
>>>>>know if that would be a big advantage over just charging for 50  
>>>>>caps.
>>>>>I've been charging for the caps. Nobody has questioned it or  
>>>>>anything. I
>>>>>charge a buck for the small ones, and go up mostly as the voltage  
>>>>>rating
>>>>>increases to 3, 4 or higher bucks each.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Gary McCartney
>>>>>
>>>>>McCartney Electronics
>>>>>Guelph Ontario Canada
>>>>>Est. 1984
>>>>>email: gary (at) number63.ca
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Same here Al...I never use the word "fuse" on my Invoice..that's  
>>>>>>all the
>>>>>>customer focuses on.
>>>>>>Some of my customers that are a little technically inclined, or
>>>>>>presume they are, I don't even use words like resistors or  
>>>>>>capacitors.
>>>>>>Like on the Mitsubishi's...if I change a bunch of Caps, I bill
>>>>>>it out as a MOD KIT, and charge accordingly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>>
>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al L
>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:36 AM
>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Since fuses and fuse ohms cost very little i NEVER put them on my  
>>>>>>bills!
>>>>>>It
>>>>>>also stops that old crap'ALL it needed was a fuse!". al
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Al Leatherman
>>>>>>224 RT. 46
>>>>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>>>973-361-5796
>>>>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:34 AM
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bingo! Give that man a cigar! As "sue-happy" as a lot of Americans
>>>>>>
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>become, it is best to use the original part when it comes to  
>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>like this. When you turn on a tv and there is a lawyer saying "Has
>>>>>>>anyone looked at you cross-eyed in the last 3 months? We'll sue  
>>>>>>>on a
>>>>>>>percentage basis", Ed is VERY correct in saying that a lawyer  
>>>>>>>would
>>>>>>
>>>>>>drag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>you through the coals on that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Doug Keller
>>>>>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>>>>>>101 Freeland Ave.
>>>>>>>Terra Alta, WV
>>>>>>>USA        26764
>>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
>>>>>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>>>>>>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Edward Gaidies wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jerry;
>>>>>>>>I agree 100%.
>>>>>>>>Cover yourself on "Safety Components"...
>>>>>>>>Not being cruel...it's nice to ask if you don't know..but using
>>>>>>>>improper fuses, or improper components will put your shieska on  
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Not so much in Canada, but with Lawsuits, some hotshot  
>>>>>>>>Investigator
>>>>>>>>will draw you through the coals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>>>>*****************************************************************
>>>>>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 8-Oct-04, at 3:47 PM, J Silverman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>There is no relationship between fusible and flameproof. They  
>>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>different
>>>>>>>>>applications. Fusible has been selected to protect some circuit  
>>>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>further
>>>>>>>>>damage. Flameproof is to prevent smoke and fire when damage  
>>>>>>>>>occurs.
>>>>>>>>>Jerry Silverman
>>>>>>>>>Greentron Inc
>>>>>>>>>4 Newland Ave
>>>>>>>>>Greenville SC 29609
>>>>>>>>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>>>>>>>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Paul" <dntwntv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thats interesting, because I am working on a Samsung that came  
>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>with a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>vertical problem per the customer. Didn't show up in the shop  
>>>>>>>>>till I
>>>>>>>>>tapped
>>>>>>>>>the board. I resoldred all the i/c pins and other relative
>>>>>>
>>>>>>components.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Still
>>>>>>>>>no deflection. Hit the area with freeze and got partial  
>>>>>>>>>deflection
>>>>>>>>>momentarily while a peaking coil smoked. I replaced the i/c the  
>>>>>>>>>coil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>shorted zener and a lytic cap. The 5.6 ohm fusible opened also  
>>>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>didn't see till I fired it up again and had fold over. I  
>>>>>>>>>replaced
>>>>>>
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>flame proof. It smoked and opened up immediately.  Found another
>>>>>>>>>shorted
>>>>>>>>>zener. Thus the reason for the question. A fusible didn't seem  
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>any
>>>>>>>>>better than a flame proof, at least in this case. Some  
>>>>>>>>>suppliers use
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>term fusible to mean flame proof.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                                 Paul
>>>>>>>>>>J Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>No. A flame proof resistor is made of materials that wont burn  
>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>smoke
>>>>>>>>>>excessively. That doesnt mean that it wont light up like a  
>>>>>>>>>>light
>>>>>>
>>>>>>bulb
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>while
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the circuit it is supposed to protect vaporizes and the  
>>>>>>>>>>resistor
>>>>>>>>>>survives.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>A
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>fusable resistor is supposed to protect something by  
>>>>>>>>>>interrupting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>current.
>>>>>>>>>>Jerry Silverman
>>>>>>>>>>Greentron Inc
>>>>>>>>>>4 Newland Ave
>>>>>>>>>>Greenville SC 29609
>>>>>>>>>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>>>>>>>>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Paul"
>>>>>>>>>>To:
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:57 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Fusible resistors
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Is a flame proof resistor a safe sub for a fusible resistor  
>>>>>>>>>>>of the
>>>>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>value?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If not why not?
>>>>>>>>>>>Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Paul ,B
>>>>>>>>>>>Central TV&Video
>>>>>>>>>>>911W Grand Ave
>>>>>>>>>>>Grover Beach Ca.
>>>>>>>>>>>(805)481-8084
>>>>>>>>>>>
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