Got your schematic, thanks been busy day away from any comptuers. Looks like might be the PIP module.on IC6000 micro pin 52-R, 51-G, 50-B, 49-FB all no signal no voltage (swaped out IC6000 with one in stock same condition). No picture from tuner or video input main screen have it in the Pip window from the tuner and have OSD. composite video is seen at pins 41 & 37 of IC2200, the OSD 1 pins for rgb 15, 16, 17 get signal from the pip (it looks like a square wave with video interlaced, the RGB main out's pins 19, 20, 21 when pip is off have a square wave, with pip on shows video sitting on top of the step of the square wave, as far as I can determine the voltages for pin 51 thru 49 of IC6000 (221-1386-01) must be derived from the pip, havent found anytging obvious with the modle, tried swapping out the 4053 on the board no change, IC 2501 is an odd one can't seem to find it listed, seems like all the scheamtics seem to list the PIP like a black box.... Peter Oliver Tucson Radio TV From: woodman1@xxxxxxxx Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Zenith B27A30ZC 9-2071-2 no picture pip ok Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:57:02 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Hi Peter, I saw it.. and would not open at TechAssist.. works fine here.= . Good idea get model numbers for the chassis numbers. What Zenith does li= ke the A11 is the low end set and they ad pip surround 2nd tuner etc but al= l the CA chassis.. I'm home now and have the pdf so if you would like it i = can send direct to you..couple mins with DSL.. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Peter oliver <oliver_peter1@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Dec 21, 2003 2:14 PM To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Zenith B27A30ZC 9-2071-2 no picture pip ok Hi bob, Looks like you upload was interupted, I just checked my computer=20 archives I fould a CA chassis schematic that was labled 25A11 that lists=20 that among applicable models, This is the zenith version but I would assume= =20 that they used the same manual for all ? Peter Oliver Tucson Radio TV From: woodman1@xxxxxxxx Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Zenith B27A30ZC 9-2071-2 no picture pip ok Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:11:36 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter, Do you mean IC2200 [jungle]? probably not, don't think pip would= =20 work...uploaded manual.. please post when you repair, as I only have seen one here with a vert=20 problem.... Bob Bobs TV Worcester, ma -----Original Message----- From: Peter oliver <oliver_peter1@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Dec 20, 2003 7:13 PM To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Zenith B27A30ZC 9-2071-2 no picture pip ok Zenith B27A30ZC 9-2071-2 MFD April 1999 Set has no pictrue, sound ok. Has picture in pip=20 window. Connections on PIP board look ok. May have had surge..? Would IC1200 be possibility? (did not try a AV input yet). Peter Oliver Tucson Radio TV _________________________________________________________________ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=3Dfeatures/es ***************************************************************************= ** Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ***************************************************************************= ** Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger =97 learn how here! =20 http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize ***************************************************************************= ** Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ***************************************************************************** Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ _________________________________________________________________ It?s our best dial-up Internet access offer: 6 months @$9.95/month. Get it now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ***************************************************************************** Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/