Hey Jeff, Thanks but the problem occurs instantly, not after a few minutes. What I really need to know is the function of Q631 & Q632 and how it affects the relay circuit. When I disconnect the emitter of Q631 I can turn the relay on and off. I have not hooked the HOT back to +B. Need to solve one problem at a time. Season's Greetings All! David Lessard mrfixit@xxxxxxxxxxx Alexandria, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jeff Dougherty Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 8:57 PM To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssit] Citizen TV JCTV3034 - Relay Click David, This model number is different, but perhaps will help: >From Tech Repair CD: CITIZEN\JCTV1579\SHUTS DOWN AFTER A FEW MINUTES\\\\LEAKY Q602(2SD1409) CAN USE ECG2540\\\\\\\\ support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx FAX 717-564-4952 Jeff Dougherty Intrepid Video & Electronics Be careful of your thoughts. 501 Luther Rd They may become your words Harrisburg, PA 17111 any moment. 717-909-8844 VCR tips, electronics info & general interest. www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net www.thetoolcaddy.com www.9-11-2001tragedy.com *********************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lessard" <mrfixit@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: [TechAssist] [TechAssit] Citizen TV JCTV3034 - Relay Click Techs, Push the "ON" button and only a relay clicking, on then off immediately, pushing again does nothing, pushing again does the same relay clicking thing. Found shorted C553 (.33uf/200V) in horizontal circuit (replaced). HOT is OK. Found Q606 (C-E shorted) in +B regulator circuit, replaced. Found baked E-Cap C502 near vertical output heatsink, replaced. Any thoughts? I'm going to seperate and load down (light bulb) the +B to confirm regulation, if OK I'm tempted to bypass the relay and slowly crank up the AC while monitoring the current (+B inline with light bulb). Should I do this? Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated. Thank-you. "Share what you know, Learn what you don't" David Lessard Alexandria Electronics 50 Harrison Street Alexandria, Ontario K0C-1A0 mrfixit@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------ Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html ------------------------------------------ To REMOVE your email address, click here: http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html To CHANGE your email address, click here: http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html ------------------------------------------ Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html ------------------------------------------ To REMOVE your email address, click here: http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html To CHANGE your email address, click here: http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html ------------------------------------------ Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html ------------------------------------------ To REMOVE your email address, click here: http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html To CHANGE your email address, click here: http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html