To put this fault to sleep,the main problem was the audio I/C. I had some runs that were burned,but don't know what caused it. I bypassed them with wires and it works fine. I haven't got hold of Samsung yet to find out about Q601 but it is there and I don't know what it does. It numbering says it is part of audio as the output is IC601. Bob if I find out later what the deal is I will let you know. Buck Pasher Buck's TV Gander Newfoundland Canada 709-256-7738 (Fax & Phone) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/