[TechAssist] Re: SONT TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube

  • From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 16:53:05 -0400

There is still quite a bit of discussion as to the cause of the magnetic
field and the reason that it might reverse. If the magnetic field we observe
is the difference of two or more opposing magnetic fields then it is
possible that it could change by large amounts and very quickly. It could be
that the changes that have been observed are just normal fluctuations in
level. Too soon to tell.
Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080
greentron@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 4:08 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: SONT TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube


> It sounds like this will take thousands of years, if this is happening
> at all.
>
> Kevin Wilks
> Kevin's TV & Video Repair
> Penticton BC Canada
> kevintv@xxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerome Silverman
> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 12:32 PM
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: SONT TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube
>
> Color problems on tvs might be the last of our problems if the Earths
> magnetic field is reversing. This appears to be happening slowly, if it
> is
> really happening at all. So it would gradually go to zero and then build
> up
> in the opposite direction. This appears to have happened many times in
> the
> past, as evidenced by the magnetic polarization of rocks and minerals
> that
> were solidifying during these events.
> The Earths magnetic field deflects most of the continuous stream of
> charged
> particles from the Sun. As the field weakens, more of these particles
> will
> reach closer to the Earth, frying practically all of those sattelites
> except
> for the radiation-hardened military ones. The charged particles that
> reach
> the surface will do a lot of damage to the flora and fauna. Voltages
> induced
> in power transmission lines will trip out the breakers, as has happened
> in
> the past from sunspot activity when abnormally large numbers of charged
> particles penetrated the existing magnetic shield.
> Jerry Silverman
> Greentron Inc
> 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
> 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080
> greentron@xxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 12:24 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: SONT TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube
>
>
> > Well, it's about time!  I need the work.
> >
> > Kevin Wilks
> > Kevin's TV & Video Repair
> > Penticton BC Canada
> > kevintv@xxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al Gutz
> > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 7:53 PM
> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: SONT TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube
> >
> > When that occurs all the TVs will need to be reconverged, lots of
> work.
> >
> > Scienctists who study that sort of thing claim its several thousand
> > years overdue but they feel with recent changes in magnetic field it
> may
> >
> > be in the process now.
> >
> > Al G
> >
> > Technotronic Dimensions wrote:
> > > Just dont do it while the Earths Magnetic Field is Changing
> Polarity,
> > then
> > > you'll have a recall later.
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve Hearns
> > > Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA]
> > > WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
> > > 1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Hoyt's TV" <hoytstv@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 7:16 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: SONT TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube
> > >
> > >
> > > Geezers are valuable again.
> > >
> > > Russ Hoyt
> > > Hoyt's TV
> > > Exeter, NH
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Max Bonnell" <mebonnell@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 10:40 AM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: SONT TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>I never thought I would see the day when we were teaching how to use
> a
> > >>degausing coil.
> > >>
> > >>Max Bonnell
> > >>Bonnell TV
> > >>Robinson, IL
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx From:
> > >>hoytstv@xxxxxxxxxxx(Hoyt's=A0TV) Date: Fri, Jun 4, 2004, 9:22am
> > (CDT+1)
> > >>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: SONY TV -
> > >>KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube. Reply=A0to:
> techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>
> > >>I haven't used a pencil degausser since the last 8 track came in.
> How
> > >>long does it take to cover the whole screen on a 36" TV? I tried to
> > >>paint my father's house with a crayon once. (4 hours)
> > >>
> > >>Russ Hoyt
> > >>Hoyt's TV
> > >>Exeter, NH
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 7:38 AM
> > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: SONY TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube.
> > >>OK, now everyone knows how to use the Big degausser....I can just
> see
> > >>you pulling out the recommended Sony Pencil Wand and doing your
> little
> > >>dance.....
> > >>
> > >>Damon Brunger
> > >>Telrad Electronic Services
> > >>Ft Wayne, IN 46815
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: SONY TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube.
> > >>| Me to. Thats the way I saw taught, before dirt was invented. |
> Jerry
> > >>|
> > >>| Alpha 21 Electronics
> > >>| www.alpha21century@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>|
> > >>| ElectronicRepairServices <ElectronicRepair@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>| I called the costumer and asked him when and how did this happened
> > and
> > >>he | told me that it happened during a storm. | Electronic Repair
> > >>Services
> > >>||
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>| From: "Hoyt's TV"
> > >>| Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 7:26 PM | Subject: [TechAssist] Re:
> > >>SONY TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube.
> > >>|
> > >>
> > >>| > The way I learned to do it, back in the stone age, was to start
> 6
> > >>feet | away
> > >>| > from the front with the coil perpendicular when you turn it on.
> > Then
> > >>turn
> > >>| it
> > >>| > sideways and with a circular motion bring it up to the tube,
> > >>covering all
> > >>| > the tube then back off the same way and turn it perpendicular
> > before
> > >>| turning
> > >>| > it off. Not necessary to do the sides and back unless you
> suspect
> > >>some | metal
> > >>| > there, got magnetized.
> > >>|=A0>
> > >>| > Before the advent of automatic degaussing, we had to degauss
> every
> > >>time we
> > >>| > moved a set because it was the movement through the earths
> > magnetic
> > >>field
> > >>| > that magnetized the shadow mask. That wasn't strong enough to
> have
> > >>much | > affect on the shields but telephone bells and vacuum
> cleaners
> > >>would do a | job
> > >>| > on them. (I remeber that Russ)
> > >>|=A0>
> > >>| > Russ Hoyt
> > >>| > Hoyt's TV
> > >>| > Exeter, NH
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>| > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>| > From: "Bruce Tiedeman"
> > >>| > To:
> > >>| > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 3:40 PM | > Subject: [TechAssist]
> > Re:
> > >>SONY TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube.
> > >>|=A0>
> > >>|=A0>
> > >>| > > Russ , I leave the set on. Put the Degaussing coil in front of
> > the
> > >>tube
> > >>| > and
> > >>| > > energize the coil . Move the coil in a circular motion in
> front
> > >>and | around
> > >>| > > cabinet sides, bring the coil around front again moving it
> away
> > >>from the
> > >>| > > tube as you go. I then turn off the coil and abruptly turn the
> > >>coil | > > perpendicular to the set .
> > >>| > > That's it, works good unless set has been dropped. If the set
> > has
> > >>been | > > dropped or hit by lightning may take a lot more work.
> > Repeat
> > >>the | > procedure.
> > >>| > > Some times the degaussing circuit malfunctions and you have to
> > >>repair. | > >
> > >>
> > >>Bruce
> > >>|=A0>=A0>
> > >>| > > .B&T Electronics
> > >>| > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>| > > From: "Hoyt's TV"
> > >>| > > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 3:05 PM | > > Subject:
> > [TechAssist]
> > >>Re: SONY TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube. | > > > I've been
> using
> > >>that big black horse collar for over 40 years, and | > haven't
> > >>| > > > lost a patient yet.
> > >>|=A0>=A0>=A0>
> > >>| > > > If you do something stupid like turn it off while it's next
> to
> > >>the | tube,
> > >>| > > it
> > >>| > > > will magnetize the shadow mask so it looks like it needs to
> be
> > |
> > >>
> > >>>degaussed.
> > >>
> > >>| > > > Sometimes enough so it takes a lot of degaussing to undo
> what
> > >>you
> > >>did.
> > >>|=A0>=A0>=A0>
> > >>|=A0>=A0>=A0>
> > >>
> > >>| > > > Russ Hoyt
> > >>| > > > Hoyt's TV
> > >>| > > > Exeter, NH
> > >>
> > >>| > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>| > > > From: "ElectronicRepairServices" | > > > To:
> > >>| > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 2:15 PM | > > > Subject:
> > >>[TechAssist] SONY TV - KV-36FV1 Bad Colors on pix tube. | > > > > I
> > have
> > >>to go on a service call on this TV, the costumer says that | the
> > >>| > > > colors
> > >>| > > > > are bad, sounds like the degausing is bad on this TV, it
> > could
> > >>be
> > >>as
> > >>| > > > simple
> > >>| > > > > as resoldering the degausing thermistor.
> > >>| > > > > My question is, and I have heard conflicting reports,
> could
> > I
> > >>use
> > >>| the
> > >>| > > hand
> > >>| > > > > held degausing coil to degause the pix tube, some
> servicers
> > >>say
> > >>that
> > >>| > > could
> > >>| > > > > damage the pix tube.
> > >>| > > > > Thank you, Mark
> > >>----------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >>
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