I was lucky on this one. It is a Kenwood stereo receiver model VR409. It had the infamous problem of turning off about 5 seconds after the power on, just after the relay click. Found a surface mount resistor R269, 470 Ohm burnt. This resistor goes to collector of surface mount Q117 transistor, which it's emitter in turn goes to pin 22 of IC102 the output module. I replaced the resistor and the unit works fine. Sent home with customer after test run Gary McCartney McCartney Electronics Guelph Ontario Canada Est. 1984 email: gary (at) number63.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/