[TechAssist] Re: RCA ITC222 and chipper check//Crossover cable
- From: "Mouton's Electronics" <moutons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:35:29 -0600
Thanks Glen, I just got off the phone with Sencore and ordered one. This
will clear up the confusion for all of us who have chipper checker. Also
thanks to Bob @ Lakeside TV. I was sure there was a cable for it and some
one knew what I needed. Thomson needs to create new documentation/manual
every time they come out with a new chassis for CC.
Thanks again
Jason
Moutons Electronics
----- Original Message -----
From: <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:24 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ITC222 and chipper check//Crossover cable
> This is a reply I got today about the cable for ITC222
>
>
> The 222 chassis has a unique 2 row 10 pin connector. To connect the TECI 1
> to this chassis you need a short adapter cable which is available from the
> Sencore service parts department. The part number is 39G1095. The cost is
> $9.95 Please call 1-800-736-2673 ext. 418 to order.
>
> Regards,
> Glen
>
> Robert
> tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> H & H Electronics Inc
> Dallas, TX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lakeside TV" <lakesidetv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:04 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ITC222 and chipper check//Crossover cable
>
>
> > Jason
> > Apparently when we called Sencore and told them what chassis this was
> for, at that time one cable was on backorder. Several days later the whole
> kit arrived with pc board and 4 cables. You may want to give them a call.
> >
> > Bob Norcross
> > Lakeside TV Service, Inc.
> > Clinton Township, MI 48038
> > Lakeside TV <lakesidetv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Fellow Techs,
> > First sorry for the long post. Here's my experience with the ITC222. Set
> came in dead. Would pulse three times at turn on. Ordered CCAB3686 TECI1
> board and cables from Sencore. With the TECI1 board use the 7 to 10 pin
> adapter cable that comes with it. Connect on the back of the set below the
> RF connector where it says "for factory use only". Ran CC. Gave a Code
33 -
> deflection safety circuit active or BV500 not connected. Basically, turns
> out a pincushion problem (which will shut the set down) is the problem in
> this case. Scoped pin cir. (called E-W)waveform severely distorted. All
> components checked normal. Called RCA Tech line.Tech said "couldn't find
the
> cause of the problem, right?, We'll just give you an authorization # for
the
> board." Apparently they have been giving out a lot of these boards. Will
> post final results when the board arrives.
> > Bob Norcross
> > Lakeside TV Service Inc.
> > Clinton Township, MI 48038
> > walter wood wrote:
> > Yes, an eithernet crossover cable IS needed for the
> > ATC311.
> > But, what no one and no manual told us up front was
> > there was another adapter needed for the
> > convergence etc.
> > Then, they admitted that the adaptor was needed,
> > but that no one had built it yet.
> > At this time, the sets were 12 to 18 months old.
> > Sencore blames Thomson and Thomson blames Sencore.
> > It finally was available about Oct. of 2003, and
> > still did not work.
> > I believe that this the same adaptor that you need
> > to use on the ITC222.
> > Apparently, they forgot to put a plug on the
> > chassis for it.
> > Good luck
> > Walter
> > By the way, we've dropped Thomson as a product to
> > sell, and no longer do warranty work for them.
> > Life's too short!!!
> > --- Mouton's Electronics
> > wrote:
> > > Walter
> > > I have used CC for some years and it works fine
> > > for me. However I have not
> > > used it on the ATC311. It uses a crossover cable
> > > for the ethernet port. I do
> > > remember all of the post on that one and it was a
> > > topic of discussion when I
> > > went to the Thomson ASC school back on Oct. They
> > > insisted it worked and he
> > > said he did several himself before leaving for
> > > our meeting. I myself have
> > > not had the opportunity to do it so I don't know
> > > any of the potential
> > > problems one would run into on that chassis.
> > >
> > > My problem has scattered info on it on there
> > > website and CC users manual.
> > > They don't seem to update it often enough or
> > > carefully enough for a tech to
> > > use the software proficiently.
> > >
> > > I just figure since so many people was having
> > > trouble with this chassis
> > > someone had to get a straight answer from Thomson
> > > about on how to align it
> > > with CC before I spend a whole day on the phone
> > > with them. The call I made
> > > today they wouldn't even let me stay on
> > > hold....due to the volume of calls
> > > they said call back later.
> > >
> > > Jason
> > > Moutons Electronics
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "walter wood"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:21 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ITC222 and chipper
> > > check
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jason;
> > > > yours is the second request on this matter I've
> > > > seen lately.
> > > > I don't have an answer.
> > > > I fought with Sencore and Thomson for 18 months
> > > on
> > > > the ATC311 chassis.
> > > > The e-mails are all in the archives i'm sure.
> > > > Truth is, I've never gotten Chipper Check to
> > > work
> > > > with anything!!!
> > > > I've done all the up dates, and run all the
> > > > diagnostics, and accordingly, it's working up
> > > to
> > > > specs.
> > > > But, It doesn't work.
> > > > Biggest waste of time and money I've ever seen.
> > > > Just a thought, maybe it's speaking Chinese.
> > > > Walter
> > > > --- Mouton's Electronics
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Ok, Where is the big "mystery connection".
> > > > > Chipper check say to use the MM101 TECI1
> > > > > connector that I had to order from Sencore
> > > but
> > > > > since the CC doesn' t have complete setup
> > > > > instructions to connect CC to the ITC222 I
> > > have
> > > > > no idea where to connect it to the chassis. I
> > > > > have read others say they have changed the
> > > SSB
> > > > > board, so if you changed one I would hope you
> > > > > used CC to download and reinstall the values
> > > to
> > > > > the new module. Or has everyone realigned
> > > this
> > > > > chassis manually, I hope not, that would be
> > > > > painful;)
> > > > > So, I would like to know if anyone knows
> > > where
> > > > > the connection is or has everyone been doing
> > > it
> > > > > manually? I will have to change the SSB board
> > > on
> > > > > one I am looking at now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason
> > > > > Mouton's Electronics
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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