Hi Guys, customer called today with the complaint of multiple black dashes across the entire screen after I had changed out the crystal & cap for a dead set symptom yesterday, I`m assuming the little brown spacers have melted all over the pip board as this is usually what causes this symptom, I have cleaned these boards of all the brown goo with very little success, has anyone come up with what part(s) are actually causing the black dashes without having to change the entire module (which I`m sure is probably NLA) Or is there a way to bypass the PIP module in these sets? TIA, Larry E Larry Eastman American TV & Electronics Crystal River, Fl. 34428 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/