This is the set that had an open R429 and shorted C430.After replacing both,still no relay click due to no 5v from stdby ckt.The culprit was C423 (47\50v) cap with very high esr.Customer was very happy to get her tv fixed since it was of sentimental value to her. Thanks to AL and Bob and all of you who helped with tips and print on the set. Mando Birdie's TV & Electronics Casa Grande, AZ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/